308 barrel length?

[vintagearms]

no worries. this is how people learn and adjust their preconceptions.
i don't think the guy that says i am lying has even shot a Scar 20S...since they aren't very common.
there a few competitors using the Scar 20S for long range competitions (gas guns).

That guy you are referring to runs comps and long distance rifle classes.

[theLBC]

That poster is from Fl. Is that your post?

i wish!

that guy shoots competition.

i got the scar for zombies, commies or zommies.

[ar15barrels]

https://forum.snipershide.com/thread.../#post-7804141

That's some other dude, not YOU.

[theLBC]

That's some other dude, not YOU.

did i claim it was me? what's your problem?

i am not trying to brag on myself or pretend i am an expert marksman.
all i am trying to do is show that it is incorrect when you say a 20" .308 rifle can't shoot 1000 yards.
i think i made my point, several times.

i could pick up his rifle and miss 5 times in a row, and it won't be because the barrel is too short.

[ar15barrels]

SHlowlight hitting 1500 yards with 20" 308 Rifle

Suppressors add velocity, just like longer barrels.
Post a picture of your own form 1 or 4 for your suppressor with your California address on it.
If you have to use one of lowlights's videos as proof that something can be done, you probably don't understand what air density is and why it matters.

Here is a hint: air is thinner at high altitude.
Show me a 1000yd range with target pits within say 50 miles of downtown los angeles that is at 5,000+ ft of altitude and we can meet up there for the bet.
Bring your suppressor.

[ar15barrels]

all i am trying to do is show that you don't know what you're talking about when you say a 20" .308 rifle can't shoot 1000 yards.
i think i made my point, several times.

I have yet to see one that CAN shoot 1000yds at any of the ranges I have shot at.
Perhaps you should take me up on my bet since you are so sure I am wrong...

[theLBC]

I have yet to see one that CAN shoot 1000yds at any of the ranges I have shot at.
Perhaps you should take me up on my bet since you are so sure I am wrong...

i realize he lives in denver.
did you mention altitude when you claimed a .308 can't shoot 1000 yds?

if i get 1 out of 20, do i get the money?

[theLBC]

Suppressors add velocity, just like longer barrels.
Post a picture of your own form 1 or 4 for your suppressor with your California address on it.
If you have to use one of lowlights's videos as proof that something can be done, you probably don't understand what air density is and why it matters.

Here is a hint: air is thinner at high altitude.
Show me a 1000yd range with target pits within say 50 miles of downtown los angeles that is at 5,000+ ft of altitude and we can meet up there for the bet.
Bring your suppressor.

aren't suppressors illegal in california?

why are you being a jerk?
don't like being contradicted with facts and video evidence of your ignorance?

anyway, i'm not going to schiff on OP's thread anymore. i had my say.

[ar15barrels]

i realize he lives in denver.
did you mention altitude when you claimed a .308 can't shoot 1000 yds?

We are in the LA area.
Did you mention the altitude that the OP is going to be shooting at?
We only have limited places that we CAN even shoot 1000yds at within a day's drive of the LA area and NONE of them are at 5000+ft of elevation so someone in the LA area wanting to shoot at 1000yds is going to be shooting much closer to sea level than 5000ft.

So show up at one of the local 1000yd ranges and prove me wrong.
Bring your $1000 and prove it or quit trying to say I'm wrong.
I have shot competitions at all of the local 1000td ranges and have YET to see a 20" barreled 308 making hits on the 1000yd line since they are almost all kicked off the range for missing at 900yds.

[ar15barrels]

aren't suppressors illegal in california?

why are you being a jerk?
don't like being contradicted with facts and video evidence of your ignorance?

anyway, i'm not going to schiff on OP's thread anymore. i had my say.

Suppressors are legal with the necessary permits which are basically unobtainable by the general public.
So if you happen to be a licensed manufacturer or an FFL with an SOT, you probably have the permits.
If you happen to be an enthusiast who simply wants one, you have about a snowball's chance in hell of actually getting one in CA.

Telling the truth is not being a jerk.
I'm sorry that you think it is.

[American Muslim Gun Owner]

So show up at one of the local 1000yd ranges and prove me wrong.
Bring your $1000 and prove it or quit trying to say I'm wrong.
I have shot competitions at all of the local 1000td ranges and have YET to see a 20" barreled 308 making hits on the 1000yd line since they are almost all kicked off the range for missing at 900yds.

Serious newbie question: can you get kicked off for missing?

[kevins750]

[ar15barrels]

I missed this earlier.

what's your problem?.

My problem is that people without the necessary experience/knowledge/credentials repeatedly post bad advice that realisticly does not apply to most people in CA because they saw it on the internet and were not spart enough to realize it would not be correct in most cases.

This needs to be stopped.

[ar15barrels]

Serious newbie question: can you get kicked off for missing?

Yes.
When you can not keep your shots on the 6ftx6ft target frame and shots start going into the berm and kicking dirt/rocks on the target marking crew, the normal procedure is to remove the shooter from the range if he is beyond his ability to shoot in a safe manner.

[ar15barrels]

Further proof that LBC's stated 2moa threshold of accuracy can not be met with short barrels.

mine is being able to hit a steel ipsc target, even a nick