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  • #46
    sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19687

    A random Bergara HMR MIGHT group .67 moa at 100, but their guarantee is only for a 3 shot group for 1 moa or better. You can't count on the one you get shooting .67 moa at 100, never mind 1200.

    The closest one I could think of is a Savage 12 F-class in 6.5-284. It's a smidgen over $1200 online. It weighs 13.3 pounds so it's not a great hunting rifle. You could knock some of that off by getting some of the 30 inch barrel sawed off, and/or by putting a less target oriented stock on it. Not the greatest solution but the best one I could think of.

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    • #47
      isntzen
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2018
      • 605

      Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
      It looks like two guns. Start saving your money.
      It's not the money. And I already have a rifle I can use for Elk.
      Just seeking precision and versatility.

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      • #48
        isntzen
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 605

        Originally posted by sigstroker
        A random Bergara HMR MIGHT group .67 moa at 100, but their guarantee is only for a 3 shot group for 1 moa or better. You can't count on the one you get shooting .67 moa at 100, never mind 1200.

        The closest one I could think of is a Savage 12 F-class in 6.5-284. It's a smidgen over $1200 online. It weighs 13.3 pounds so it's not a great hunting rifle. You could knock some of that off by getting some of the 30 inch barrel sawed off, and/or by putting a less target oriented stock on it. Not the greatest solution but the best one I could think of.

        Review:
        https://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_M12-Fclass.htm
        Thank you for the suggestion. Nice article. Looking at others in the Savage line also.

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        • #49
          JTROKS
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2007
          • 13093

          My hunting rifle is an Interarms Mark X in 270 Win. It will take any big game in North America provided the right bullet is used. It’s a 23.5” barreled action bedded in a light B&C stock with a 1-piece steel base. Having a thin barrel and a 3x9 40mm scope helps to make it light hitting about 8.5 lbs with scope. I will have to upgrade the old Burris scope before I take it hunting again. My eyes aren’t as young as they used to be when I hunted with the Mark X.
          The wise man said just find your place
          In the eye of the storm
          Seek the roses along the way
          Just beware of the thorns...
          K. Meine

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          • #50
            fish45
            Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 386

            I don’t think you need a 5000 custom rifle to accomplish most of what you want but I think increasing your budget to 2000 ish would get you a lot closer toward what you want minus the budget. I think if you bought a 700 short action (420ish and 2ish pounds), a proof research carbon fiber wrapped 308 barrel (800ish and 3 ish pounds) and a grayboe terrain (350ish and 2.5 pounds) you would have closer to what you want in parts. That’ll put you at 1570ish and roughly 7.5 pounds. Add on 200ish for action trying and 300ish for barreling for a rough total of 2070 if you don’t get it bedded and don’t change the trigger.

            I’m not a carbon fiber wrapped barrel fan but for what you want it seems to make sense.

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            • #51
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57136

              Originally posted by isntzen
              Very helpful analysis Randall.
              (I think C eliminates .243 - 6.5cm, but chambering can be undetermined for now.)
              The answer is a compromise of both A and B, mostly compromising A.
              Put another way, hoping to acquire a really accurate field rifle that won't be useless after 4 rounds at long range, detachable mag, in 7 or 300wm. The bergara that I linked to seems like it was made for this. What do you think?
              I would bet this isn't the first time you have conversed with an idiot like me wanting to go down the dual-purpose road. How close can I get without selling one of my cars? What results can I expect, and what does the solution look like?
              I think you should take $400 of the original $1200 budget that you started with and spend that on a nice used 8.5lb 338 win mag.
              There are many available with very low round count because people don't fire them much because they are no fun to shoot beyond a couple rounds.
              338 win mag makes an excellent elk rifle that will serve you perfectly for the elk hunting requirements that will usually be 300yds and closer and only 1 shot if you do it right.

              Then I think you should spend the remaining $800 on a barrel blank, trigger and gunsmithing to put on whatever action you like for your 20lb target rifle chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor.
              Then spend another $2000 for the action and stock.
              That will get you a rifle CAPABLE of your requirement B and each rifle can have a proper stock and scope put on it that suits the specific needs of how that rifle will be used.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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              • #52
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57136

                Originally posted by sigstroker
                You could knock some of that off by getting some of the 30 inch barrel sawed off
                LOL.
                Take a 30" barrel and cut it SHORTER and then use it for 1200yds?
                That's approaching the dumbest advice I have ever seen online.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #53
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57136

                  Originally posted by isntzen
                  It's not the money.
                  And I already have a rifle I can use for Elk.
                  Just seeking precision and versatility.
                  Then the obvious solution is to build a target rifle to meet requirement B.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #54
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57136

                    Carbon wrapped barrel is NOT good for 10 shot accuracy.
                    For 10 shot accuracy, you want the most rigid barrel possible so it won't wander as much as it heats up.
                    For 1200yd shooting, you want the longest barrel possible for the extra velocity to buck wind.
                    So he needs a rigid (heavy/thick) and long barrel.
                    There is no way around that requirement.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #55
                      MongooseV8
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4426

                      I think the closest you will get is something like a 700 5R in 6.5 with the 24" barrel. Or the Tikka equivalent. Both are close to all your goals.

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                      • #56
                        sigstroker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 19687

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        LOL.
                        Take a 30" barrel and cut it SHORTER and then use it for 1200yds?
                        That's approaching the dumbest advice I have ever seen online.
                        Come on, you've read your own postings before.

                        Cutting half a foot off would still make it among the longer factory rifle barrel lengths.

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                        • #57
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57136

                          Originally posted by sigstroker
                          Cutting half a foot off would still make it among the longer factory rifle barrel lengths.
                          And then no better than any of the other ones so you might as well have a better action if you are going to be limited to a factory barrel length.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                          • #58
                            fish45
                            Member
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 386

                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            Carbon wrapped barrel is NOT good for 10 shot accuracy.
                            For 10 shot accuracy, you want the most rigid barrel possible so it won't wander as much as it heats up.
                            For 1200yd shooting, you want the longest barrel possible for the extra velocity to buck wind.
                            So he needs a rigid (heavy/thick) and long barrel.
                            There is no way around that requirement.
                            What he wants is unrealistic, but like I said before "would get you a lot closer." The OP himself stated "Just seeking precision and versatility." Based on that and the original post thats the closest he's going to get.

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                            • #59
                              LynnJr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7958

                              The weight is too light in my opinion but it's done all the time on other forums.
                              Look for a tactical forum because they shoot 9/10 at 2000+ yards with a 6 pound gun and factory ammo all the time.
                              The secret for them is first focal plane scopes and your position behind the gun.
                              In the real world a 300 Weatherby in a 700 Remington with a 28 inch barrel will do alot if what your after except the weight limit.
                              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                              Southwest Regional Director
                              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                              www.unlimitedrange.org
                              Not a commercial business.
                              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                              • #60
                                RNE228
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 2458

                                Hathcock did it with a Win70 varmint barrel 30-06 and a 10x Unertl 60 years ago

                                Originally posted by MongooseV8
                                I think the closest you will get is something like a 700 5R in 6.5 with the 24" barrel. Or the Tikka equivalent. Both are close to all your goals.

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