Do you own a rifle fitting this description?

[isntzen]

Do you have a rifle that fits all of these criteria?

A) Weighs less than 8.5 lbs without an optic or ammo.

B) Can place 9 out of 10 shots on an 8 inch plate at 1200 yards within 60 seconds. (Assuming competent marksmanshp.)

C) Can be used for an elk hunt.

D) Uses readily available factory ammo.

E) Has a street price of less than $1,200 (no optic).

Do I have to build, or am I looking for a factory rifle?

[JackEllis]

I haven't tried shooting my Winchester 670 in .30-06 out to 1200 yards but it'll kill an elk, it weights less than 8.5 pounds (I think) and it's been pretty deadly with 150 grain Remington Core-Lokts. The newer model 70s are probably just as accurate and would fall inside your budget.

[MongooseV8]

Those requirements are pretty tight. Id say borderline unrealistic.

[MJB]

B is up to the shooters skill

Everything else is doable from factory rifles.

[duckman1]

The 1200 yd. requirement is as much about skill as the rifle. All of your other requirements are available over the counter.

[NaClAddict]

D and B are almost mutually exclusive.

[etwinam]

I can hit a 12" plate at 1200 yards 10 times with my Ruger precision in 6.5cm but I dont want to lug that thing around for elk hunting. Besides 6.5 won't take an elk ethically and you have to go pretty deep for elk. I have to ask the most important question though, why are you shooting elk at 1200 yards?

If you want an all round for everything gun, precision to hunting I hate to break it to you but you're not gonna find it. A long range precision rig will usually be heavier than a lightweight hunter and the medium profile barrels are decent at both but not great. Most guys that shoot long range add weight to their rifles so they don't bounce around and compound that with a caliber big enough to drop an elk you're looking 300wm or greater.

If you want a decent brush gun that will take an elk or a dgrizzly here is a shameless plug to my BAR in 300wm. It's a hell of a gun and very accurate, very fast but I'm not sure you're gonna get 9/10 1200 yards with anything except a chassis rifle Bergara or AICS R700 and I wouldn't hunt with those guns. You could always look at a Barret 416 too but you're gonna have to sell one of your cars to afford it

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1531099

[lordmorgul]

[k1dude]

The problem is your 60 second criteria. That means a heavy barrel profile. You won't find a sub 8.5 pound gun that can meet that requirement.

[hermosabeach]

I don't think you would want to hunt with a 30 to 50 MOA base and a Nightforce scope...

I don't think you would want to shoot to 1200 with a fixed 4X or a 2-7 scope

I don't think you would want to swap optics and bases for hunting and target

Many of the varmint remingtons will shoot 1/2 MOA

[Aeonstar]

Do you have a rifle that fits all of these criteria?

A) Weighs less than 8.5 lbs without an optic or ammo.
that one is easy

B) Can place 9 out of 10 shots on an 8 inch plate at 1200 yards within 60 seconds. (Assuming competent marksmanship.)
this one is not a valid measure of what you want. a better measure would be, make constant hits on game sized animals with correct wind calls at 1000k yards with SLOW fire.

C) Can be used for an elk hunt.
easy

D) Uses readily available factory ammo.
easy

E) Has a street price of less than $1,200 (no optic).
umm easy

Do I have to build, or am I looking for a factory rifle?

Tika in 300 win mag with a brake on it. Wear ear protection and its 6.5lbs

7mm mag would be fine as well. If you want to hunt elk the 6.5CM is not ideal just saying

[-hanko]

Sounds like a Donald Babbett thread.

[JackEllis]

I don't think the OP is planning to shoot an elk at 1200 yards. At least I hope not because even a .300 win mag and a 200 grain bullet will only deliver about 400 ft-lbs of energy at that distance. I'm not sure that's enough for an ethical kill and I wouldn't want to start tracking a critter with that big a lead.

[scotty99]

10 aimed rounds in a minute at 1200 yards is a very tall order. With a round capable of cleanly taking an elk, likely impossible, at any cost or weight. Elk-level energy at 1200 is probably .338LM at a minimum, maybe a 30-378 Weatherby would be borderline. After the first trigger pull of either of those rounds in an 8.5lb gun, very few people could work up the nerve to pull it 9 more times.

Bring your distance requirement down to maybe 800 yards and you have a chance of meeting the rest of your goals.

Why would a hunting rifle need to be able to fire 10 rounds in a minute? Are your elk planning some sort of organized wave attack?


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[M1NM]

Any gun that light will wander off target after 3 shots due to barrel heat. You need target weight if you need to take 10 shots at your prey.