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  • #31
    UberPatriot
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 2069

    Originally posted by Blade Gunner
    Just buy a bolt gun. It's more accurate and less expensive.
    We have bolt guns, that's not the point.
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    • #32
      Bullets&Whitewalls
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 2370

      Let's see if I do this right
      Last edited by Bullets&Whitewalls; 10-17-2018, 4:11 PM.

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      • #33
        Bullets&Whitewalls
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 2370

        Here's the before shot
        Last edited by Bullets&Whitewalls; 10-17-2018, 4:11 PM.

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        • #34
          Bullets&Whitewalls
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 2370

          Originally posted by Blade Gunner
          Just buy a bolt gun. It's more accurate and less expensive.
          I have bolt guns. As well as semis. Why not use what you can get and have some fun with it? With the receiver purchase I'm only into it 240 bucks and I have flashiders and brakes. Hell if I look hard enough I might have a handguard to use too.

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          • #35
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
            A real bolt gun would be a lot more accurate.

            I float the idea of a Bolt action 308 AR, but then I realize why not just build a bolt gun then?
            Originally posted by Blade Gunner
            Just buy a bolt gun. It's more accurate and less expensive.
            LOL. Please tell me what bolt gun is both less expensive and more accurate than a quality bolt action AR upper mated to an AR lower?

            Sure, I can get a custom made BR bolt action that might out shoot a custom made bolt action using an AR lower but, at the same time, maybe the bolt action AR will shoot better. When you start talking about under .25 moa of precision, you might have a point but, those are not inexpensive rifles period. Of course, the accuracy you guys are referring to is just adjusting sights so, both guns will be equally "accurate" if adjusted properly. On might have the edge on "precision" though.
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            • #36
              NATEWA
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2012
              • 5977

              I know very little about welding. Curious how the weld/metal doesn't go through to the inside of the barrel? Do you plug it with something?

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              • #37
                Bullets&Whitewalls
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 2370

                Filed and viola! I'll probably blast and Cerakote the barrel armor black since I have some left.
                Last edited by Bullets&Whitewalls; 10-17-2018, 4:11 PM.

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                • #38
                  Bullets&Whitewalls
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 2370

                  Originally posted by NATEWA
                  I know very little about welding. Curious how the weld/metal doesn't go through to the inside of the barrel? Do you plug it with something?
                  The barrel is pretty thick so I just chamfered the hole on this since it's so small anyway. You could plug it I suppose with a rod but since it's not really holding much back or structural I feel good with it.

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                  • #39
                    Bullets&Whitewalls
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 2370

                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    LOL. Please tell me what bolt gun is both less expensive and more accurate than a quality bolt action AR upper mated to an AR lower?

                    Sure, I can get a custom made BR bolt action that might out shoot a custom made bolt action using an AR lower but, at the same time, maybe the bolt action AR will shoot better. When you start talking about under .25 moa of precision, you might have a point but, those are not inexpensive rifles period. Of course, the accuracy you guys are referring to is just adjusting sights so, both guns will be equally "accurate" if adjusted properly. On might have the edge on "precision" though.
                    Well said.

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                    • #40
                      Bullets&Whitewalls
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 2370

                      On another note I may get crazy and attempt the dreaded drilled bolt carrier group on another set of parts I have. I have a mill so milling the receiver would be pretty simple. Drilling the BCG with carbide I am pretty confident. I know with some research the hardness is around 50c it's the attaching a bolt handle part I need to figure out. I may make a threaded insert to press into the hole instead of trying to tap it. I know there's been some talk on another thread about drilling them.

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                      • #41
                        kevins750
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 1376

                        The bolt handle on the uppers are pretty small...since we are going to be using the bolt handle on every shot, would a larger/longer handle be more beneficial?
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                        • #42
                          Bullets&Whitewalls
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                          • May 2012
                          • 2370

                          Originally posted by kevins750
                          The bolt handle on the uppers are pretty small...since we are going to be using the bolt handle on every shot, would a larger/longer handle be more beneficial?
                          I think that depends on the shooter. For me it won't be about speed so a smaller handle should be fine. But who knows I may change my mind. I do plan on leaving the buffer and spring so I can just let it go forward on its own. The spring resistance might warrant a larger knob.

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                          • #43
                            Ajlopez281
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                            • Sep 2016
                            • 187

                            I have been curious about this. I'm in for the finish. Curious if there is a way to use the existing charge handle so I wouldn't have to change the upper receiver?
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                            • #44
                              CptDan
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 519

                              Originally posted by vliberatore
                              The bolt gun will typically be cheaper to get more accurate than the AR. So it's more accurate for the same budget.
                              Well check this on getting a Rem 700 trued and accurized, In my case $700 for the long action rifle with a few bullets down the barrel in 8mm Mauser. It looked brand new. Add about $150 for the trigger, so already at $850.

                              Now lets add $640 for the trueing. So we are at $1490. Now add the cost of a barrel $325 (Lija) that takes us to $1815. We still have not added a stock. Stocks can run $350 to $950 and more. So this takes us seriously into $2500+ territory.

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                              • #45
                                Bullets&Whitewalls
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 2370

                                Originally posted by Ajlopez281
                                I have been curious about this. I'm in for the finish. Curious if there is a way to use the existing charge handle so I wouldn't have to change the upper receiver?
                                If the gas system is completely gone and couldn't easily be installed you could probably just use the charging handle without any issues. It would be cumbersome though if you like to shoot prone I would imagine or if you are trying to keep looking down your sight line.

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