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  • NATEWA
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2012
    • 5977

    ar 15 lower, bolt action upper

    Anyone have any experience with this? I'm thinking of installing a barrel with no gas port so it's a true bolt action rifle.

    Thoughts?

    Last edited by NATEWA; 02-05-2017, 4:19 PM.
  • #2
    Varg Vikernes
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2831

    A real bolt gun would be a lot more accurate.

    I float the idea of a Bolt action 308 AR, but then I realize why not just build a bolt gun then?

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    • #3
      killshot44
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 4072

      That's a bit of dough to build a straight-pull single-shot that is magazine fed but it will work.

      Biggest disadvantage to a bolt-gun is the glacial lock-time of the AR trigger/hammer-fall, even with a Geiselle Nat'l Match.

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      • #4
        kevins750
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 1376

        If you are dead set on side charging upper, there are less expensive ones out there.
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        • #5
          UberPatriot
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 2069

          I got my side charger at Bear creek arsenal.

          It's hard finding a barrel without a gas port though so I'm going to tap and thread the gas port then put a screw in it.

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          Last edited by UberPatriot; 12-02-2016, 9:33 AM. Reason: Spelling
          Location: Olympic Peninsula Washington

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          • #6
            eigenstate
            Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 202

            I have one made out of a Mega upper, Young mfg BC, cheapo 16" Wilson barrel, all bought from JSEsurplus. The biggest issue is that the charging handle is on the right, so is a little cumbersome to use. I only shoot off the bench slowly so it really isn't a problem.

            It works fine and is easily as accurate as I can shoot. From a bench at 100 yards on a good day, I can usually get 7 round groups less than a quarter with Black Hills 75gr ammo.

            I used to have a gas system on it, and took that off and turned the gas block over, so it is more like a disabled semi-auto than a bolt action. I'm not sure that passes muster from a legality perspective, so I'll probably need to figure some way to permanently seal the gas port.

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            • #7
              k1dude
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 14641

              Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
              A real bolt gun would be a lot more accurate.

              I float the idea of a Bolt action 308 AR, but then I realize why not just build a bolt gun then?
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              • #8
                milotrain
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 4301

                Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
                A real bolt gun would be a lot more accurate.
                Define "a lot more" please.

                EDIT: Ok that's baity so I'll explain.
                Off the shelf match AR uppers shoot between 1/4 and 1/2MOA. Let's just call it 1/2MOA.
                Off the shelf match bolt rifles shoot between 1/4 and 1/2MOA. Let's just call it 1/2MOA.
                Custom funky ARs can shoot around or just below 1/4 MOA.
                Custom F-class and PRS rifles can shoot around or just below 1/4MOA.
                Custom Benchrest bolt rifles shoot in the ones.

                Is 1/8MOA really "a lot"? And considering the specifics needed to run a Benchrest rifle is it even significant? Crappy ARs shoot 4MOA, crappy bolt guns shoot 2MOA. Both are unacceptable.
                Last edited by milotrain; 12-02-2016, 9:38 AM.
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                • #9
                  UberPatriot
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 2069

                  Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
                  A real bolt gun would be a lot more accurate.

                  I float the idea of a Bolt action 308 AR, but then I realize why not just build a bolt gun then?
                  If you put a bolt action upper on a AR lower receiver you don't have to register the lower receiver as an assault rifle and the lower gets to keep the evil features.
                  Last edited by UberPatriot; 12-02-2016, 9:55 AM.
                  Location: Olympic Peninsula Washington

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                  • #10
                    Rgarbarino
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1112

                    Midway has an AR Stoner side charge upper with BCG for $239.

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                    • #11
                      NATEWA
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 5977

                      Originally posted by Rgarbarino
                      Midway has an AR Stoner side charge upper with BCG for $239.

                      https://www.midwayusa.com/product/87...emington-matte
                      Thanks - I saw that. Good reviews although a couple of guys said a new bolt improved issues they had. I might try that out.

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                      • #12
                        JMACTAC
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 30

                        If anyone is looking for barrels with no gas port try Green Mountain Barrels. They carry off the shelf AR 15 chambered barrel blanks in 223 Wylde, 556, 300 Blackout and 7.62x39.

                        Picked one up myself, very nice finish and quality. Can't wait to put some rounds down the pipe to check the accuracy.

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                        • #13
                          trackhazard
                          Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 274

                          Cheapest side charge uppers I've seen are Bear Creek Arsenal ($209) which is right side charge with handle attached to carrier. New Frontier Armory (225) makes a non-reciprocating left side charge which only requires a different cam pin that is supplied.

                          I'm actually looking at doing something similar for next year so I've been researching. The toughest part has been finding a barrel w/o a gas port.
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                          • #14
                            NATEWA
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 5977

                            Originally posted by trackhazard
                            Cheapest side charge uppers I've seen are Bear Creek Arsenal ($209) which is right side charge with handle attached to carrier. New Frontier Armory (225) makes a non-reciprocating left side charge which only requires a different cam pin that is supplied.

                            I'm actually looking at doing something similar for next year so I've been researching. The toughest part has been finding a barrel w/o a gas port.

                            I like the NFA upper. Any reviews on this? I check Green Mtn. but couldn't find any barrels with no gas port.

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                            • #15
                              NATEWA
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 5977

                              Found it

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