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  • #16
    Bhobbs
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 11851

    Originally posted by Divernhunter
    Before you go to the range again check the screws/bolts holding the action into the stock also. Might save you some ammo.

    Do not worry about the people saying not to shoot at 25 yards. I do it all the time with a new scope/rifle or when I move a scope. It takes me about 2-3 rounds to get on paper where I then move to 100 yards. Quick and easy when you know what you are doing and do not want to super sandbag the rifle so it does not move. Sometimes I just shoot at a spot in the dirt(or a clay pigeon placed there) and see when the bullet strikes at 100 yards. A couple of quick adjustments and we are ready to fine tune the scope.

    PS---Enjoy your rifle
    Yeah, I will after learning the hard way.

    I only put a few rounds downrange at 25 yards. I know I can save ammo but it wasn't expensive match grade so I wasn't worried about spending a few rounds.

    Thanks. I'm excited to see what it can do with better ammo.

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    • #17
      russ69
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2009
      • 9348

      Originally posted by ExtremeX
      I think the point he was trying to make is that you don't need to start at 25 yards... its literally a waste of time and ammo.
      Yes, just trying to help the OP and other new shooters. I cringe when I see a centerfire rifle shooting at 25 yards, it's just not necessary and you learn nothing because a 25 yard zero and a 100 yard zero can be very different. Another tip if you will indulge me, take the small "Shoot N See" pasters and put them on a clean sheet of paper. It's a much better aiming point for a scoped rifle and there are a bunch of them in most target packs.
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      • #18
        Bhobbs
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 11851

        Originally posted by russ69
        Yes, just trying to help the OP and other new shooters. I cringe when I see a centerfire rifle shooting at 25 yards, it's just not necessary and you learn nothing because a 25 yard zero and a 100 yard zero can be very different. Another tip if you will indulge me, take the small "Shoot N See" pasters and put them on a clean sheet of paper. It's a much better aiming point for a scoped rifle and there are a bunch of them in most target packs.
        I appreciate the advice. I don't have a lot of experience with precision shooting so I am trying to learn as much as I can.

        I was shooting from a bi pod on the table at Lytle Creek, so I didn't try bore sighting it. That's the only reason I shot at 25 yards. I had a rear bag with me but there wasn't enough room to use the bag and the bi pod on their tables.

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        • #19
          Kingair001
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 2357

          Originally posted by Bhobbs
          I appreciate the advice. I don't have a lot of experience with precision shooting so I am trying to learn as much as I can.

          I was shooting from a bi pod on the table at Lytle Creek, so I didn't try bore sighting it. That's the only reason I shot at 25 yards. I had a rear bag with me but there wasn't enough room to use the bag and the bi pod on their tables.
          We all started there . . . and I am still a rookie !
          WTB : Bren Ten - WTB : Wildey 45 & 475 Magnum

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          • #20
            LynnJr
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7958

            Like DivernHunter I also shoot my rifles at 25 yards to get a shot on paper. I use a large target stapled up backwards so it's all blank and put a small circle on it.
            One or two shots is all it takes and you can head to one hundred yards after that.

            OP.
            Try a bunch of different ammo once you get things all tightened up. If the shots are still moving get the rifle bedded.
            The best shooting 308 factory ammo I ever shot was PMC 150 grain hunting ammo and Federal Gold Medal didn't shoot as well in any of my rifles.
            Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
            Southwest Regional Director
            Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
            www.unlimitedrange.org
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            URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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            • #21
              TripleThreat
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2012
              • 2642

              You went out and shot your Remy 700, had a blast and learned a few things.

              You were kind enough to share your experience with us and unfortunately the naysayer had to get their licks in. The Remy 700 is an awesome rifle.

              Hope you have years of shooting fun!

              Michael
              Last edited by TripleThreat; 08-14-2016, 7:53 PM.
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              • #22
                Bhobbs
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 11851

                Originally posted by LynnJr
                Like DivernHunter I also shoot my rifles at 25 yards to get a shot on paper. I use a large target stapled up backwards so it's all blank and put a small circle on it.
                One or two shots is all it takes and you can head to one hundred yards after that.

                OP.
                Try a bunch of different ammo once you get things all tightened up. If the shots are still moving get the rifle bedded.
                The best shooting 308 factory ammo I ever shot was PMC 150 grain hunting ammo and Federal Gold Medal didn't shoot as well in any of my rifles.
                I have a couple hundred 208 a maxs I want to try working up a load for but if that doesn't work, I'll try any .30-06 factory load I can get. The Long Range has the Bell and Carlson M40 stock, which has an aluminum bedding block. Hopefully I can get by without bedding it.

                Originally posted by TripleThreat
                You went out and shot your Remy 700, had a blast and learned a few things.

                You were kind enough to share your experience with us and unfortunately the naysayer had to get their licks in. The Remy 700 is an awesome rifle.

                Hope you have years of shooting fun!

                Michael
                Thanks. That's all I was trying to do.

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                • #23
                  Kingair001
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2015
                  • 2357

                  Originally posted by TripleThreat
                  You were kind enough to share your experience with us and unfortunately the naysayer had to get their licks in. The Remy 700 is an awesome rifle.
                  Actually I just checked and I didn't see any post mentioning that a Rem 700 is a bad rifle ?
                  WTB : Bren Ten - WTB : Wildey 45 & 475 Magnum

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                  • #24
                    SMarquez
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 2216

                    I too shoot at 25 to get a rough zero. I know I will be centered vertically when I move out to 100. Makes it simpler for me. I also use cheap reloads to get close then use the higher end reloads and dial in from there.

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                    • #25
                      Lucky Scott
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2610

                      Great rifle and you have started a journey that is fun and interesting. Every trip to the range is a learning experience for me. Enjoy your rifle, you have a nice one.

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                      • #26
                        ExtremeX
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 7160

                        +1 on printing you own targets... I print mine on the regular old printer paper and Ill use the back side something that has already been printed on if I have that around too.

                        Sometimes I just use those 1" orange paster stickers on a large piece of backing.

                        If you want to make better use of your targets when shooting groups, just dial a MIL or two up, down, left, or right and use the same point of aim...

                        100 yards is also an awful close distance to use a shoot-n-see target. I don't even need those at 300 yards with a 30 cal sized bullet.

                        What type of optic are you using OP? What magnification range are you working with? The way the optic is setup can really change how your day goes at the range. You want something that has good tracking, and with a reticle that allows you to measure items on target like a ruler. You should be able to take those measurements and make the adjustments using your turrets. There should be no guessing games... there is no reason to shoot and move, shoot and move, shoot and move.
                        ExtremeX

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                        • #27
                          Bhobbs
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 11851

                          Originally posted by Lucky Scott
                          Great rifle and you have started a journey that is fun and interesting. Every trip to the range is a learning experience for me. Enjoy your rifle, you have a nice one.
                          Thanks. I like it so far.

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                          • #28
                            Bhobbs
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11851

                            Originally posted by ExtremeX
                            +1 on printing you own targets... I print mine on the regular old printer paper and Ill use the back side something that has already been printed on if I have that around too.

                            Sometimes I just use those 1" orange paster stickers on a large piece of backing.

                            If you want to make better use of your targets when shooting groups, just dial a MIL or two up, down, left, or right and use the same point of aim...

                            100 yards is also an awful close distance to use a shoot-n-see target. I don't even need those at 300 yards with a 30 cal sized bullet.

                            What type of optic are you using OP? What magnification range are you working with? The way the optic is setup can really change how your day goes at the range. You want something that has good tracking, and with a reticle that allows you to measure items on target like a ruler. You should be able to take those measurements and make the adjustments using your turrets. There should be no guessing games... there is no reason to shoot and move, shoot and move, shoot and move.

                            It's a Vortex PST 4-24.

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                            • #29
                              ExtremeX
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 7160

                              Originally posted by Bhobbs
                              It's a Vortex PST 4-24.
                              You sure about that? You mean 6-24x50, or the 4-16x50 Viper PST or a different series?

                              I'm just trying to understand how the scope is setup and what you are working with... What reticle / turret combo did you go with?

                              I've owned both... you don't need to waste your money on shoot-n-see targets, you don't need it with that scope, its got enough magnification and resolution for you to make out small details at those distances.
                              Last edited by ExtremeX; 08-14-2016, 10:06 PM.
                              ExtremeX

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                              • #30
                                Bhobbs
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11851

                                Originally posted by ExtremeX
                                You sure about that? You mean 6-24x50, or the 4-16x50 Viper PST or a different series?

                                I'm just trying to understand how the scope is setup and what you are working with... What reticle / turret combo did you go with?

                                I've owned both... you don't need to waste your money on shoot-n-see targets, you don't need it with that scope, its got enough magnification and resolution for you to make out small details at those distances.
                                Yeah 6-24. My bad.

                                It's moa/moa

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