Gen 3 19 jhp ftf problems

[Gutshot Gary]

It's probably because of the 10 round magazines. Despite upgrading from the 2183 follow to the 9mm3 follower, the reduced capacity magazines have a whole host of issues for malfunctions.

From another forum:

I have been involved in two tests of Glock reduced capacity 10 rd G17/G19 mags using both the stock #2183-2 follower, as well as the Glock OEM #3 follower. In both cases the reduced capacity magazines did NOT prove reliable and had significantly higher malfunction rates than the standard capacity OEM Glock 17 & 15 rd magazines used as controls.

Perhaps that is why at my recent Glock Armorer re-certification class the Glock trainer specifically stated to NEVER use Glock 10 rd reduced capacity magazines for LE duty use, as they were not considered reliable enough...

[Malaprop14]

Keep trying different ammo? It isn't cheap, but if you're going to carry, you need to get something that IS reliable and often JHP ammo will not feed reliably in all firearms. So even if the mag is part of the issue, the ammo seems to be a factor as well since ball feeds fine. I recently switched to Hornaday Critical Defense from Gold Dots for my own firearms, but have yet to try those in her 26.

[Mossy Man]

It's probably because of the 10 round magazines. Despite upgrading from the 2183 follow to the 9mm3 follower, the reduced capacity magazines have a whole host of issues for malfunctions.

From another forum:

I have been involved in two tests of Glock reduced capacity 10 rd G17/G19 mags using both the stock #2183-2 follower, as well as the Glock OEM #3 follower. In both cases the reduced capacity magazines did NOT prove reliable and had significantly higher malfunction rates than the standard capacity OEM Glock 17 & 15 rd magazines used as controls.

Perhaps that is why at my recent Glock Armorer re-certification class the Glock trainer specifically stated to NEVER use Glock 10 rd reduced capacity magazines for LE duty use, as they were not considered reliable enough...

Thanks California

Its probably the way they make the mags. Instead of having them retain the same mechanics, they rib the magwells and turn it from a double stack to a 1.3 stagger, unlike the shorter mag/larger baseplate block on some guns like Ruger/Smith

My G19 has been OK with the 10-round 2183 follower, but I mostly use old non drop free 15 round mags.

[Gutshot Gary]

Thanks California

Its probably the way they make the mags. Instead of having them retain the same mechanics, they rib the magwells and turn it from a double stack to a 1.3 stagger, unlike the shorter mag/larger baseplate block on some guns like Ruger/Smith

My G19 has been OK with the 10-round 2183 follower, but I mostly use old non drop free 15 round mags.

That's probably exactly why. If they kept the same geometries and used either a neutered baseplate (like Sig or S&W) or a bigger follower then I doubt they would have the problems they do.

[tunafed]

Well I ordered some of the 6 followers for the time being to see how that works. Also gonna send my brother in Idaho some dough to pick me up some standard 19 mags and I will just pick those up when I visit him later this summer. Of course I will block them to 10 rounds before I leave the US and return to CA. Thinking that might be the best option but, hopefully the new followers will help as well.

[tacos3]

I had a gen 3 G19 that had FTF's on the 10th round on all SD ammo I tried. Critical duty/defense, gold dot, ranger and PDX. The edge of the hollow point would jam on the bottom of the feed ramp. This happened on 12 of the 13 10 round mags I had. I took my g19 and the mags and the ammo to my LGS where they verified the problem and the armorer called Glock and they sent 12 new followers. Problem gone. I don't know what the follower number was as I tossed all of the bad ones.

Good luck.


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[CK_32]

Have you tried different HP's? This is why you run a box of 250 at least before you make any firearm HD/SD.


Try some different designs. JHP's are notorious for this in many guns. Some run great and feed great some catch and snag, some do fine in one gun that refuse to run in another. Also polish the ramp it will help some. If it won't run any JHP's reliably hit Glock up and ask what their recommended quick fix is, try that if that doesn't work to to the next step and find a local armorer or send the b**h back. I would have recommended also to change out the followers but it seems you already did. Also another common issue.

[diese]

I'm having the same issue with my Jan 2014 Gen 3 G19. I had the 2183-2 followers, which had FTF when 1 hollowpoint was in the mag. Then, I replaced the 2183 followers with 9mm3 followers. Now these fail to chamber large cavity hollowpoints (Federal HST are problematic, although Ranger-Ts work fine) at bullets 4, 5, or 6. I have some newer 9mm6 followers coming in the mail. I read on another thread that some slight sanding to the magazines need to be done to fit the 9mm6 followers (sanding 1mm of plastic off near the feed lips), but afterwards it should work as intended.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=470727

Update:

The 9mm6 followers have arrived. When you first install them, you need to sand about 1mm of plastic off in front of the right feed lip in order for the 9mm6 to fit properly.

The biggest difference with the 9mm6 followers is that it doesn't hook onto the spring. So, when you press down on the tip of the follower, it doesnt nose dive like the 9mm3 followers. Instead, the whole platform is pushed down when you push the tip. Whereas I was able to reliably induce malfunctions in the 9mm3 followers,, these 9mm6 followers have reliably cycled HST's 100% of the time. So far, the problem has been fixed. The only downside is that the cartridge indicator on the back of the mag no longer works, but that's much better than having FTF's. I will update this thread if I encounter any problems.

[tunafed]

Thank you diese! I ordered my 9mm6 followers yesterday so hopefully they will be in by next week.

[nothinghere2c]

when all else fails...

http://www.corbon.com/corboncart/glaser/pow-rball/pb09100-20

jhp that feed like ball ammo

[timbo399]

Same exact malfunction happens w my Beretta 92fs. your pic is my exact issue. Nose of bullet slams into bottom of feedramp and stays stuck horizontal. Does same thing every third round both mid magazine and slingshotting first round. Def not mag issue cause bought plenty of new Meg Cars for it to try in addition to the PB mags that came w it and used ALL types of brand 9mm ammo. Thing is mine has same issue w FMJ as well. And Beretta CS won't let me send it in- tell me it's a common issue and need to oil locking block more- told guy I own x amount of other semis that all run flawlessly so it's gun not me. Will provide update when come to resolution.

[tunafed]

Received my 9mm6 followers earlier today (well yesterday now) and got them installed an hour. I used a small jeweler's file and some 220 grit sandpaper, went easy enough. The cartridge indicator on the back is a little off but not bad. So far just hand cycling rounds thru the gun even "riding" the slide forward I haven't been able to induce a failure. With one round in the mag compared to one with a 2183 follower the nose of the bullet sits at a slightly higher angle. Compared to the 9mm3 follower and the 9mm6 with 5 rounds loaded there is definitely a major difference. I have about 200 total rounds of gold dots, HST's and some Critical Defense rounds I plan to run thru the gun before work this afternoon to see how it goes but, I have a feeling the problem is solved for now.

[Gutshot Gary]

Good to know the problem seems to be fixed. Just remember that repeated chambering of the same round - especially on self defense ammo - can be very bad! It can cause bullet setback resulting in higher pressures which might damage your gun.

[PowMeow]

so its sounds like the only fix to using JHP ammo in the G19 without FTF issues is now the 9mm6 followers? Was it hard to convince Glock to send you the 9mm6 followers. I've heard folks cant even get them to send out the 9mm3 followers. Thanks for reporting back

[Gutshot Gary]

so its sounds like the only fix to using JHP ammo in the G19 without FTF issues is now the 9mm6 followers? Was it hard to convince Glock to send you the 9mm6 followers. I've heard folks cant even get them to send out the 9mm3 followers. Thanks for reporting back

9mm6 followers and/or standard capacity magazines.