Sphinx SDP

[fmlyman]

I was emailing this gentleman today about the all stainless model and he replied none available as of yet but he could get the 2 tone with stainless reciever for 1250.00 shipped to FFL in CA.


Nicholas Pagan
Owner
Nick Angel Gun Works
(919) 758-3487

[Justintoxicated]

Ahh your right the duotone is all steel. Looks like they cost a bit more as well.

Should I still be on the fence for one of these? Will I like it as much as a semi-custom 1911 or Sig X-Five?

[fmlyman]

If you can afford it buy it...Not a waste of money in my opinion

[JackRydden224]

Anyone concerned about the longevity of this gun being made of aluminum?

Where can I get a stainless version and how much more is it?

You are joking right?

[Justintoxicated]

You are joking right?

No why? I mean sure there are a lot of aluminum semi auto handguns, but they are often known to not last as long as their steel framed twins, and sometimes heavy loads are not recommended. I guess they just loosen up faster, and are more susceptible to wear and tear. Probably fine for how much most people including myself shoot though? Since this is supposed to be a real nice tight fit shooter, I was wondering if anyone was worried about them loosening up after the first say 20k rounds.

Just like with 1911's they are known to not last as long when made from aluminum. Granted this is a different gun, so that's why I asked.

Either case I think I would prefer the weight of steel for range use.

[NiteQwill]

No why? I mean sure there are a lot of aluminum semi auto handguns, but they are often known to not last as long as their steel framed twins, I guess they just loosen up faster. Since this is supposed to be a real nice tight fit shooter, I was wondering if anyone was worried about them loosening up after the first say 20k rounds.

Just like with 1911's they are known to not last as long when made from aluminum.

Loosening up? It's a tool. While no metal is failure proof, there are millions of aluminum [rifle] receivers well past the 20k mark.

[Justintoxicated]

Loosening up? It's a tool. While no metal is failure proof, there are millions of aluminum [rifle] receivers well past the 20k mark.

Well sure, but that's a little different. And for AR's well you can always replace the upper if you managed to wear it out. But slides are different than receivers anyways, in rifles the barrel isn't resting in the moving part..

[Lead Waster]

Well sure, but that's a little different. And for AR's well you can always replace the upper if you managed to wear it out. But slides are different than receivers anyways, in rifles the barrel isn't resting in the moving part..

AR-15 lowers, while aluminum, have very little stress on them. They just hold other parts in place. The battered moving parts are all in the upper, which are generally steel.

Hey, if you can make a durable plastic gun, you can make a durable aluminum framed gun, I mean they make planes and bicycles out of the stuff.

[lordres]

Gun Effects in Industry has a few in stock. Free SSE Free DROS. I think it's $950? Not 100% on the price.

[Justintoxicated]

AR-15 lowers, while aluminum, have very little stress on them. They just hold other parts in place. The battered moving parts are all in the upper, which are generally steel.

Hey, if you can make a durable plastic gun, you can make a durable aluminum framed gun, I mean they make planes and bicycles out of the stuff.

Yea lowers will last almost forever, the upper receiver will wear out first, but even thats hard to do.

Slides are different. Most my polymer guns still slide along steel tracks.

[fmlyman]

Gun Effects in Industry has a few in stock. Free SSE Free DROS. I think it's $950? Not 100% on the price.

Thanks for the Heads Up!

[Nor*Cal]

Look like the all steel SDP Compact Duotone has started shipping...

I am so tempted to fill my last SSE spot with this beauty.

[Nor*Cal]

Hmmm, and the SDP Compact Sandline

[Dattebayo]

No why? I mean sure there are a lot of aluminum semi auto handguns, but they are often known to not last as long as their steel framed twins, and sometimes heavy loads are not recommended. I guess they just loosen up faster, and are more susceptible to wear and tear. Probably fine for how much most people including myself shoot though? Since this is supposed to be a real nice tight fit shooter, I was wondering if anyone was worried about them loosening up after the first say 20k rounds.

Just like with 1911's they are known to not last as long when made from aluminum. Granted this is a different gun, so that's why I asked.

Either case I think I would prefer the weight of steel for range use.

I disagree, the CZ P-01 is an forged aluminum firearm that has better reliability and durability than than most other firearm on the market. During testing of the CZ P-01, the average number of stoppages was only 7 per 15,000 rounds fired. This is a .05% failure rate or an MRBF of 2142.

There are many other types of firearms that won't even stand anywhere close to those statics.

[Justintoxicated]

I disagree, the CZ P-01 is an forged aluminum firearm that has better reliability and durability than than most other firearm on the market. During testing of the CZ P-01, the average number of stoppages was only 7 per 15,000 rounds fired. This is a .05% failure rate or an MRBF of 2142.



There are many other types of firearms that won't even stand anywhere close to those statics.

not sure what you disagree with, I was just asking a question. Look, alloys are fine but there are plenty of examples where aluminum versions did not hold up as well as steel ones. Take the old P1's which were later made out of aluminum as P5's, where the frames would eventually crack and more fixes had to be made. Look at any revolver and almost always the same revolver when made out of alloy will have more restrictions on the type of ammo they can handle. I'm not saying aluminum is bad, but just wanted some other peoples thoughts. Since it's based off the CZ perhaps it's fine. However, reliability is one thing but wear and tear is another, At what point will the slide loosen up on an aluminum version vs a steel one? At those 15,000 round will the slide be looser on the frame, maybe only a minor amount? How would the steel version hold up to that?

Again probably not a big deal, but since we won't just be able to buy another one without moving later it's just something I was thinking about when looking into these. 15,000 rounds is quite a bit, but then what? Just a new barrel needed or a whole new gun? I know the new alloys are much stronger than the older ones as well.

Another example is looking at the 1911's and similar guns that shoot 10mm that are made out of steel, then you read about broken or cracked frames, while polymer frames seem to fare better. Not saying poly is better than steel, but in certain cases it seems to be, meanwhile I wouldn't buy a polymer AR lower but aluminum is fine there.

Look like the all steel SDP Compact Duotone has started shipping...

I am so tempted to fill my last SSE spot with this beauty.

yep I had my eye on that same one earlier today I can't find the MSRP anywhere for this gun, are the steel versions supposed to be more expensive than the aluminum ones?