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  • pterrell
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Aug 2013
    • 3576

    Looking for first 9mm

    I'm considering getting my first 9mm. This would eventually be my go to open/concealed carry weapon. First off, I'm not afraid of carrying a full sized pistol, in fact, I'd prefer it. I have giant Paul Bunion sized hands and those little compacts and sub compacts just won't do. I'm 6'5" 230 lbs so I'm not terribly worried about printing when I do carry. Cost is always a factor but I'd much rather get the best fit and spend

    My considerations:

    92FS - I'm trained on and (relatively) proficient with the M9 (92FS) Beretta. I'm not terribly fond of it, but I know the system well and at the end of the day it gets the job done. The price is also a real plus here.

    P226 - I've been eyeballing these for a while now. I've heard about being able to swap calibers relatively easy which would be nice for customization. I've had my hands on one but never fired it. I like the way it fits in my hand. I have mixed feelings about the lack of a physical safety though. One one hand, I've been trained all my life to go safety off, fire, safety on. On the other, I can sincerely see the advantage of removing that step from your draw. It has a nice heavy double action so snag firing shouldn't be an issue, and then there is always training with it. The negative I see with this weapon, in California models, is the inability to fire a round in the chamber with the magazine removed. I want to be able to fire when I pull the trigger. Period.

    H&K USP - This one was actually suggested to me while I was poking around Turners today. I got my hands on it and it feels just fine to me, although not quite as instantly familiar as the P226 although that could have just been in my head. One real bonus here, at least on the one shown to me, was that it has a physical ambi safety. That's huge if you're in a situation where you have to shoot offhand, draw offhand or where you're switching sides a lot. I was also shown how easy it is to rack the slide without a free hand on a table or edge if you are in a position where you need to. I know that wouldn't be something you'd do normally, but I do see the value in it. Price point is a tad higher than Sig it seems too.


    Those are the three that stood out to me. Please, bring me your input! I'd love to hear from someone who owns or has fired all 3, or has a suggestion that will blow these out of the water. Glock is not an option for me. I've held them, fired one and just not been a fan.
    Last edited by pterrell; 04-06-2014, 7:11 PM.
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    Trenchfoot
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2012
    • 7293

    I'd throw CZ 75 and M&P9 on your list of guns to try

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    • #3
      phase1
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 1753

      Beretta 92 Inox Compact
      Originally posted by Intimid8tor
      I don't need one but I might need one.

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      • #4
        pterrell
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Aug 2013
        • 3576

        Originally posted by Trenchfoot
        I'd throw CZ 75 and M&P9 on your list of guns to try
        Talk to me about them. I had thought about the M&P9 but haven't gotten my hands on one yet. Hadn't thought about the CZ.
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        • #5
          Varg Vikernes
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2831

          Glock 17, M&P 9mm, CZ SP-01.

          Originally posted by pterrell
          Talk to me about them. I had thought about the M&P9 but haven't gotten my hands on one yet. Hadn't thought about the CZ.
          Ergos on the M&P are great. Main problem is the stock trigger is kinda meh. Apex trigger kits are good though.

          Glocks are recommended for beginners because they are so stupid easy to work on. When your parts break down from wear you can get them replaced for free from an Armorer too.
          Last edited by Varg Vikernes; 04-06-2014, 7:21 PM.

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          • #6
            pterrell
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Aug 2013
            • 3576

            Originally posted by Varg Vikernes
            Glock 17, M&P 9mm, CZ SP-01.



            Ergos on the M&P are great. Main problem is the stock trigger is kinda meh. Apex trigger kits are good though.
            Hmm... just looked up the M&P. I'm not big on the striker fire system. Maybe I'm ignorant or a purist
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            • #7
              Varg Vikernes
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 2831

              If you want a hammer fired system then look for a CZ SP-01, or M9A1 or something. They are gonna be a lot more complicated to work on though.

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              • #8
                GuillermoAntonio
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 1526

                The beretta is too big and heavy for any ccw scenario. If you were to carry unconcealed then i would say its gtg.
                The Sig p226 i have personally tested on a hybrid crossbreed IWB holster. I don't think anything else can get as good as that for a full size weapon. Light, not too bulky. Fine gun.
                The HK, correct me if im wrong, but I remember them being too bulky. I dont have much experience with those.

                Out of those 3 I would opt for Sig. Finding a p226 pre magazine disconnect shouldnt be that hard to do. At least a semi-new.

                If I may suggest a new pistol let me say the p229 is merely a tad shorter on barrel lenght, so it may be a better option.

                As far as the controls, you may benefit more from a decocker than from a safety.
                Keep in mind my advise comes from someone who doesn't carry full time.
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                • #9
                  Trenchfoot
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 7293

                  Originally posted by pterrell
                  Talk to me about them. I had thought about the M&P9 but haven't gotten my hands on one yet. Hadn't thought about the CZ.
                  M&P's are similar to Glocks, so if you don't like striker fired pistols, you may not like them.

                  CZ's and their clones are some of the most widely used police and military sidearms in Europe. There are many variations, so it isn't too difficult to find one you like. I like DA/SA, so the CZ 75BD is my favorite.
                  Last edited by Trenchfoot; 04-06-2014, 7:33 PM.

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                  • #10
                    pterrell
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 3576

                    Originally posted by Trenchfoot
                    M&P's are similar to Glocks, so if you don't like striker fired pistols, you may not like them.

                    CZ's and their clones are some of the most widely used police and military sidearms in Europe. There are many variations, so it isn't too difficult to find one you like. I like DA/SA, so the CZ 75BD is my favorite.
                    I'll see if I can find someone I know with one then. I'm definitely looking for a DA/SA so the CZ75 would fit the bill there. Also good to know that it is as widely used as it is.
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                    • #11
                      BenHa
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 838

                      Only downside about CZs atm is trying to find one in stock.

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                      • #12
                        pterrell
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3576

                        That popular? Guess that's a good sign in a way.
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                        • #13
                          rysin
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 52

                          Have you tried the XD9 4" is very nice.I have shot the 226 (cant really go wrong with this one) in the 40cal which also shoots very nice. I just bought the XD40 5" tac and it shoots just as well as my 92FS Centurion.

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                          • #14
                            ralph.garmin
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 319

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                            • #15
                              pterrell
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 3576

                              Originally posted by ralph.garmin
                              Most of the guns above are heavy for CCW.
                              Try glock19. It's big enough for bedside. Small enough to carry. Easy to customize with sights-lights etc.
                              I understand that they are full sized handguns. As I said, with my bear paws, full size fits much better in my hands than a compact or subcompact. I'm also not at all a fan of Glocks. My bedside gun is my Sig 1911 with a big ole light on the front of it.
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