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  • vandal
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 2866

    If you were open carrying maybe they would have just drawn down on you. 3 vs 1 with you on the reactive side you have no prayer no matter what your El Pres time is.

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    • CitaDeL
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2007
      • 5843

      Originally posted by vandal
      If you were open carrying maybe they would have just drawn down on you. 3 vs 1 with you on the reactive side you have no prayer no matter what your El Pres time is.
      Or they may have left, post haste thinking that someone armed in this fashion was a police officer prepared to apprehend them. These hypotheticals go both ways- you have no idea how things would go down with the number of variables involved.



      Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat

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      • savs2k
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 1807

        does anyone know about the laws here in santa clara county? Or can someone point me into the direction i need to go in order to look for myself? I am a new booty to the forums but trying hard to get as much info as a can being a lurker. Also while I am pro OC because it makes a good stand for us living in ca, I do feel that OC is honestly more bad then good and pretty pointless. On the last page someone posted about how 3 guys robbed a 7-11. In my point of view if someone were to have been OCing does any feel like it would have put them person carrying in more danger? I think that if a group of gangsters or a group of people up to no good in general were to see someone OC, who thinks that the person carrying would be more likely to be gun pointed by several gangsters for their firearm then waited until that person left to do a crime?

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        • Waingro
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 1214

          Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
          This idea of "well, he's not coming after me so I will mind my own business" is a tad bit sheepish. If you were being robbed by people stronger than you would you expect a stranger to help you? American citizenship has been earned through millions of people risking their lives for freedom from tyranny in all forms. United we stand; divided we fall. The bullies of society prey on the weak and isolated. If you are not there to help those that need it, it is only a matter of time until you are the one that needs the help.
          Captain Saveaho is what that is referd to at work.
          You never hear the phrase eaten dead.

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          • Decoligny
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 10615

            Originally posted by savs2k
            does anyone know about the laws here in santa clara county? Or can someone point me into the direction i need to go in order to look for myself?


            Looks like Santa Clara County Code only regulates licensing of firearms sales for anyone selling more than 6 firearms a year.
            Doesn't look like they regulate carry beyond what the State already has on the books.
            Last edited by Decoligny; 03-25-2008, 9:06 AM.
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            • MudCamper
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 4605

              Originally posted by Decoligny
              Doesn't look like they regulate carry beyond what the State already has on the books.
              Many counties and cities have restrictions on shooting. For the most part they cannot regulate carrying because of state preemption laws.

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              • E Pluribus Unum
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2006
                • 8098

                Originally posted by Waingro
                Captain Saveaho is what that is referd to at work.
                I'd rather die being a wannabe mall ninja than live a life of a coward and a sheep. That's just me though...
                Originally posted by Alan Gura
                The Second Amendment now applies to state and local governments. Our lawsuit is a reminder to state and local bureaucrats that we have a Bill of Rights in this country, not a Bill of Needs
                Originally posted by hoffmang
                12050[CCW] licenses will be shall issue soon.

                -Gene
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                • dreyna14
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1594

                  I spoke to Officer Payn at Oxnard PD yesterday. He stated there are no Ventura County or Oxnard City ordinances regarding open carry. They just go to state law. I did forget to inquire about OPD's definition of loaded/unloaded. I might stop by again and ask.

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                  • Liberty1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5541

                    Originally posted by dreyna14
                    I did forget to inquire about OPD's definition of loaded/unloaded.
                    "They just go to state law." He already answered that question. see 12031g PC.
                    False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
                    -- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/

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                    • Res
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 1633

                      To 4thSeal or any other OC members. I'm curious to know if you carry with an empty magazine attached or with an empty magwell?
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                      Dusty Miller
                      Sacramento

                      Matthew Jackson Miller: 8-6-07 to 10-15-07
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                      • CombatMP
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 757

                        Originally posted by Res
                        To 4thSeal or any other OC members. I'm curious to know if you carry with an empty magazine attached or with an empty magwell?
                        1.empty magwell.
                        2.mag with ammo on my person.
                        Last edited by CombatMP; 03-25-2008, 2:05 PM. Reason: spell check
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                        • Res
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2006
                          • 1633

                          combat, do you ever worry that maybe someone "up to no good" may notice you have an empty magwell and might try to take advantage of it?
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                          Dusty Miller
                          Sacramento

                          Matthew Jackson Miller: 8-6-07 to 10-15-07
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                          • sloguy
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1999

                            Originally posted by CombatMP
                            1.empty magwell.
                            2.mag with ammo in my person.
                            in your person?

                            "this thread is useless without pics"
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                            Originally posted by xrMike
                            She's going to get sand in her action, if she's not careful.

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                            • CombatMP
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 757

                              Originally posted by Res
                              combat, do you ever worry that maybe someone "up to no good" may notice you have an empty magwell and might try to take advantage of it?
                              Anything can happen, no worries, I just automatically react how I was trained (second nature)
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                              • dreyna14
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 1594

                                True, but I just wanted to make sure that he was aware of what state law actually was. I'm not about to open carry with a mag or two only to be harassed or even arrested because they were misinformed.

                                Originally posted by Liberty1
                                "They just go to state law." He already answered that question. see 12031g PC.

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