"high capacity" mags

[mopeddog]

Those gun show booths selling rebuild kits sure get a lot of customers. I wonder how many rebuild kit bought after 2000 are assembled and ready to go in California.

[Press Check]

Those gun show booths selling rebuild kits sure get a lot of customers. I wonder how many rebuild kit bought after 2000 are assembled and ready to go in California.

I'd guess 90%, and I hope that no one is naive enough to think otherwise.

[Press Check]

Take them out of state where it's legal to own. Assemble and test them there. Disassemble and come back to CA.

Perfectly legal to own and use right here, in Sunny California.

[Brandon04GT]

What about mags for guns like the XD where it was only introduced to the US Market after 2000?

Speaking of rebuild kits, it is legal to store them with the spring inside the housing right? as long as the spring isn't contained inside by the endplate?

[sirgiles]

I shoot at Angeles Range, which is constantly crawling with on and off duty LE, but it never stopped me from firing off 19 consecutive rounds when I briefly owned an XDM. Knowing that possession and use are not crimes, I never gave it a second thought, nor did I ever worry about being confronted, and the same applies to my AR.

New gun, new magazines, but how could anyone prove that they weren't already assembled when I received them? You have to consider that the only time your magazines are going to come into question is if they're used during the commission of a crime, and I've never heard of anyone being hassled at a range for use of magazine that exceeds 10 rounds.

And for the record, they aren't high-capacity magazines. Based on ridiculous California law, we've been conditioned to say and think that, but a 17-round magazine is in fact a standard capacity magazine.

http://cbs13.com/local/woodland.assault.rifle.2.1561328.html

Mar 14, 2010 4:34 pm US/Pacific

Woodland Man Arrested On Assault Weapon Charge

A Northern California man is in custody after police say they found a banned assault rifle in his home.

Woodland police say they arrested Guillermo Astran around 12:30 p.m. Saturday after a relative called police because of concerns about the safety of Astran's mother.

Woodland Police Sgt. Jason Brooks says after officers detained the 28-year-old Astran they found an unregistered Russian made SKS assault rifle.

Brooks says the weapon was loaded with 28 rounds of ammunition. Authorities say the rifle is banned under California's Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989.

Astran was being held in Yolo County Jail on suspicion of possession of a banned assault weapon, resisting law enforcement officers and other charges.

Jail officials did not know if he had retained an attorney.

[Press Check]

What about mags for guns like the XD where it was only introduced to the US Market after 2000?

I've heard LE on this very forum comment about how brazen XDM owners are that they've encountered at the range. The bottom line is, unless you intend to incriminate yourself, there's simply nothing they can do.

I don't store rebuild kits, so I couldn't answer that for ya.

[sirgiles]

here is another one.

http://co.humboldt.ca.us/sheriff/pressreleases/default.asp?title=Press+Releases&url=pressReleaseDetail.asp&ID=749

[Press Check]

http://cbs13.com/local/woodland.assa...2.1561328.html



Mar 14, 2010 4:34 pm US/Pacific

Woodland Man Arrested On Assault Weapon Charge

A Northern California man is in custody after police say they found a banned assault rifle in his home.

Woodland police say they arrested Guillermo Astran around 12:30 p.m. Saturday after a relative called police because of concerns about the safety of Astran's mother.

Woodland Police Sgt. Jason Brooks says after officers detained the 28-year-old Astran they found an unregistered Russian made SKS assault rifle.

Brooks says the weapon was loaded with 28 rounds of ammunition. Authorities say the rifle is banned under California's Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989.

Astran was being held in Yolo County Jail on suspicion of possession of a banned assault weapon, resisting law enforcement officers and other charges.

Jail officials did not know if he had retained an attorney.

What does being arrested for a BANNED assault weapon charge have to do with magazines?

[Press Check]

here is another one.

http://co.humboldt.ca.us/sheriff/pre...ail.asp&ID=749

Jeperson Mykam (24 of Eureka) was determined to be the person in possession of the high capacity magazines for the firearms and was arrested for violation of possession of those magazines. A record check of all the firearms returned with only two of the firearms being registered, the Springfield XD and Glock 17, which were registered to Mykam.

There is simply no Penal Code to justify arrest for "possession" of the magazines, but he could definitely be convicted of lending or giving them to the other individuals involved in the incident.

Great find, and very interesting.

[DavidR310]

What does being arrested for a BANNED assault weapon charge have to do with magazines?

I thought he was pointing out that even though the guy had a 30rnd mag (with 28rnds loaded) there were no charges for the "standard capacity" magazines.

[DavidR310]

And btw, having an unregistered sks is not illegal. Unless the russian ones are newer than 50 yrs old.

[RickD427]

And btw, having an unregistered sks is not illegal. Unless the russian ones are newer than 50 yrs old.

I'd be very careful here. An SKS with a detachable magazine is an "Assault Weapon" and possession of an unregistered AW is a felony.

The stautus of a weapon as eligible for a "Curio and Relic" designation does not exempt it from being an "Assault Weapon". Penal Code section 30515(c) does exempt "Antique" weapons from being classified as "Assault Weapons", but to be an "Antique" it pretty much has to have been manufactured prior to January 1 of 1899 per Penal Code section 16170. "Antique" is very different from "Curio and Relic".

[cfusionpm]

I shoot at Angeles Range, which is constantly crawling with on and off duty LE, but it never stopped me from firing off 19 consecutive rounds when I briefly owned an XDM. Knowing that possession and use are not crimes, I never gave it a second thought, nor did I ever worry about being confronted, and the same applies to my AR.

New gun, new magazines, but how could anyone prove that they weren't already assembled when I received them? You have to consider that the only time your magazines are going to come into question is if they're used during the commission of a crime, and I've never heard of anyone being hassled at a range for use of magazine that exceeds 10 rounds.

I have had the exact same experiences at every range I've been to.

[DavidR310]

I'd be very careful here. An SKS with a detachable magazine is an "Assault Weapon" and possession of an unregistered AW is a felony.

The stautus of a weapon as eligible for a "Curio and Relic" designation does not exempt it from being an "Assault Weapon". Penal Code section 30515(c) does exempt "Antique" weapons from being classified as "Assault Weapons", but to be an "Antique" it pretty much has to have been manufactured prior to January 1 of 1899 per Penal Code section 16170. "Antique" is very different from "Curio and Relic".

I appreciate the correction as I dont want to spread any FUD.

So even though it is a c&r but has a detachable mag it Is classified as an AW and must be registered? So an M14 would fall under this too then.

[Librarian]

I appreciate the correction as I dont want to spread any FUD.

So even though it is a c&r but has a detachable mag it Is classified as an AW and must be registered? So an M14 would fall under this too then.

Partly yes on the SKS; M14 is select fire, so is NOT a CA 'assault weapon' - but if you are thinking of an M1A, in 'standard' stock (principally 'no pistol grip'), it is not an 'assault weapon', either.

SKS with detachable magazine is a special case of a named weapon (PC 30710 and following); if such an SKS existed, it would need to have been possessed here in CA before 1998, and there was no provision to register them.

(a) Any person, firm, company, or corporation that is in
possession of an SKS rifle shall do one of the following on or before
January 1, 2000:
(1) Relinquish the SKS rifle to the Department of Justice pursuant
to subdivision (h) of former Section 12281.
(2) Relinquish the SKS rifle to a law enforcement agency pursuant
to former Section 12288, as added by Section 3 of Chapter 19 of the
Statutes of 1989.
(3) Dispose of the SKS rifle as permitted by former Section 12285,
as it read in Section 20 of Chapter 23 of the Statutes of 1994.