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Look at the Colts, Kimbers, and S&Ws. That was my short list...If you can get a DW then look at those as well.
It came down to a Colt for me because it was USA owned company and I shot one and I liked it. Kimber was second and I will get one eventually. S&W because I really like my M&P 45.USA**************************************************USA
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They are more tempormental. You'll be making adjustments to extractors and polishing various surfaces to keep it running smoothly. Stuff you never have to do on a Glock (unless you just so happen to get a lemon which is very rare). For most shooters that's not a big deal. For a duty weapon, it could be an issue. Sadly a lot of officers carry often and shoot little. They don't shoot often enough to truly know how tuned their 1911 is at any given moment. If you truly shoot a lot, and practically live on the range, then you discover problems immediately and fine tune them out, and that is part of the fun of owning a 1911. If you don't...you don't. I would not recommend a 1911 for the later. Not when your life is on the line. I don't want to over exadurate things. I would just say that a Glock is something you can get away with carrying often and shooting little. A lot more than you can with a 1911. Not that advise it with either. If you enjoy tinkering with your gun, and solving minor problems every now and again, and breaking out the flitz polish once a year, then a 1911 is for you. Half the fun of owning it is learning how to keep it fine tuned.They only thing that should wear out is a few magazines and maybe a recoil spring.
It is funny when people don't like, or think the 1911 is somehow a "fragile" little petite thing. Like a classic car that only gets driven on Sundays. It is just not the case, and I guess you have to use one on a regular bases to figure that out.Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-08-2011, 12:05 PM.Comment
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This has always rung true with me:
I show my Kimber to my friends and my Glock to my enemies.
Get both...so different.
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I assume based on your posts and your experience level that you've competed in IPDA or IPSC at some point.They are more tempormental. You'll be making adjustments to extractors and polishing various surfaces to keep it running smoothly. Stuff you never have to do on a Glock (unless you just so happen to get a lemon which is very rare). For most shooters that's not a big deal. For a duty weapon, it could be an issue. Sadly a lot of officers carry often and shoot little. They don't shoot often enough to truly know how tuned their 1911 is at any given moment. If you truly shoot a lot, and practically live on the range, then you discover problems immediately and fine tune them out, and that is part of the fun of owning a 1911. If you don't...you don't. I would not recommend a 1911 for the later. Not when your life is on the line. I don't want to over exadurate things. I would just say that a Glock is something you can get away with carrying often and shooting little. A lot more than you can with a 1911. Not that advise it with either. If you enjoy tinkering with your gun, and solving minor problems every now and again, and breaking out the flitz polish once a year, then a 1911 is for you. Half the fun of owning it is learning how to keep it fine tuned.
I assume you used your Glock.
If your Glock was dead stock then you are a rare bird.
Every guy I've competed with who shot Glock, and a lot of them do because they work well for a lot of people, had the same type of work that all competitors do to their handguns (trigger, "reliability/polish/etc., sights, etc. etc.).
I think we all do things to our handguns when you depend on them to save your life, protect others, or compete.Comment
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There's a Baer PII in the for sale forum right now with your name on it...
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I am in total agreement.They are more tempormental. You'll be making adjustments to extractors and polishing various surfaces to keep it running smoothly. Stuff you never have to do on a Glock (unless you just so happen to get a lemon which is very rare). For most shooters that's not a big deal. For a duty weapon, it could be an issue. Sadly a lot of officers carry often and shoot little. They don't shoot often enough to truly know how tuned their 1911 is at any given moment. If you truly shoot a lot, and practically live on the range, then you discover problems immediately and fine tune them out, and that is part of the fun of owning a 1911. If you don't...you don't. I would not recommend a 1911 for the later. Not when your life is on the line. I don't want to over exadurate things. I would just say that a Glock is something you can get away with carrying often and shooting little. A lot more than you can with a 1911. Not that advise it with either. If you enjoy tinkering with your gun, and solving minor problems every now and again, and breaking out the flitz polish once a year, then a 1911 is for you. Half the fun of owning it is learning how to keep it fine tuned.
It is the most fun you can have with a pistol, IMO. Tinkering with it, custom builds, ect. I custom built one of my 1911's off of an Essex's frame. It runs, and runs very well. Not as well as my other 1911's but then again, I built it.
. That is the only 1911 I have ever had a problem with out of the many that I own. For a range toy, or HD gun, the 1911 holds it's own compared to any other pistol out there. Dropping it in the mud, sand, ****, dirt, not cleaning it, or oiling it, is where people have problems and keep having problems with it.
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+1 on that, when I first picked up my Kimber Custom II TLE/RL, I felt like throwing my Glock out the window/trash bin.
Also, the way I see it, if you die/get wounded wielding a Glock, and you lose your firearm, the bad guys won't get much value out of it vs. if it was a Kimber or a nice 1911
In Glock We Trust.
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Not sure when it became about me, but I will bite. Actually don't compete regularly, can't afford the cost of the ammo to train at the level I would if I did. Competition is nice and fun, and I enjoy it but it is not the end all be all way to evaluate guns or shooters. It is just one type of shooting.I assume based on your posts and your experience level that you've competed in IPDA or IPSC at some point.
I assume you used your Glock.
If your Glock was dead stock then you are a rare bird.
Every guy I've competed with who shot Glock, and a lot of them do because they work well for a lot of people, had the same type of work that all competitors do to their handguns (trigger, "reliability/polish/etc., sights, etc. etc.).
I think we all do things to our handguns when you depend on them to save your life, protect others, or compete.
I used to carry for living (military) and enjoyed working with and around firearms. That is where the addiction started. Now I do it for fun and self-defense and in a round about way for suplimental income.
I regularly take courses from top end schools and local schools (depending on my budget). I've put all kinds of different guns through the paces of a 4 Day Advanced Hangun Course, and used the ease of use and overall performace of each as my guide as to how I feel about them - knowing full well that for a different type of shooting they might perform differently. My mindset and outlook is defensive shooting...not competition. When I look at gun I evaluate how well it would perform as a duty weapon first, and then go from there. If I have specific need, such as deep concealment or carrying in some odd way my needs change and thus so does how I evaluate my options. Still, the duty enviorment is the first place my mind goes when evaluating anything gun related because that is my base. In defensive shooting, stock is usually a good thing. You can get a way with much lighter triggers and other modifications that are ideal for competition that could be a liabaility in a duty weapon. So as simliar as they are...defensive shooting and competition are also very different. I would consider them two different types of shooting. Each with their own specific set of needs. There is a lot of cross-over, but they are not the same.
Most of my upgrades are because I get them so damn cheap. They aren't necessary, just nice things to have. I sell this stuff. So I invest a good amount of time, effort and energy into figuring out what parts and accessories do what, and whether or not they are worth it. If a customer asks a question, I want to be able to answer it without having to call up the manufacturer. It is not always possible. There is just so much stuff out there. You can't know everything about everything.Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-08-2011, 3:39 PM.Comment
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if you are planning to shoot competitive then 1911 is the way to go (more upgrade options, better trigger etc...) if you are just a weekend warrior or take defensive class once a year, then get the one you really like. shoot both and then decide! you WILL like the 1911 more than the glock! a glock is a glock. my stock glock 19 will shoot exactly the same as my friends or uncles or whoever stock glock 19 that is... but on the other hand... my 1911 will shoot different than any other 1911. what i'm trying to say is... it never gets boring shooting different kinds of 1911s. like having 2,3 or more kids... they are all different but you love them equally!
i own glocks and shoot them from time to time... but yeah... they are boring!
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"I see an empty magazine, I think it needs to be loaded." -hickok45Comment
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This discussion is still going on? Well I guess it would be since the OP opened a can of worms with the age old "Glock vs 1911" topic
IMO, get a Glock first.
That way you can shoot it, get used to it, enjoy it, and the love it.
Then get a 1911 afterwards so you can really appreciate the feel of it in your hands, and how it shoots.
Then keep the Glock as your HD or backup gun, because you're familiar with it and know it will never fail. Use it as a fun gun to shoot when you feel like it. Use the 1911 to impress your friends and feel like you're shooting a part of history.
If you just get a 1911 first and start shooting that, and then try out a Glock or pretty much any other gun, you may not enjoy it or learn to like it (I've seen a few people react this way).
Just my humble opinion on that.
I used to show a few of my good friends my old Kimber TLE/RL and my Glock 19. They always admired the 1911 more, but never wanted to touch it. Instead they loved grabbing the Glock and swinging it all around
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First the 1911, if you can afford it, then buy the Glock.Comment
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Thanks for answering. I was curious about your background.Not sure when it became about me, but I will bite. Actually don't compete regularly, can't afford the cost of the ammo to train at the level I would if I did. Competition is nice and fun, and I enjoy it but it is not the end all be all way to evaluate guns or shooters. It is just one type of shooting.
I used to carry for living (military) and enjoyed working with and around firearms. That is where the addiction started. Now I do it for fun and self-defense and in a round about way for suplimental income.
I regularly take courses from top end schools and local schools (depending on my budget). I've put all kinds of different guns through the paces of a 4 Day Advanced Hangun Course, and used the ease of use and overall performace of each as my guide as to how I feel about them - knowing full well that for a different type of shooting they might perform differently. My mindset and outlook is defensive shooting...not competition. When I look at gun I evaluate how well it would perform as a duty weapon first, and then go from there. If I have specific need, such as deep concealment or carrying in some odd way my needs change and thus so does how I evaluate my options. Still, the duty enviorment is the first place my mind goes when evaluating anything gun related because that is my base. In defensive shooting, stock is usually a good thing. You can get a way with much lighter triggers and other modifications that are ideal for competition that could be a liabaility in a duty weapon. So as simliar as they are...defensive shooting and competition are also very different. I would consider them two different types of shooting. Each with their own specific set of needs. There is a lot of cross-over, but they are not the same.
Most of my upgrades are because I get them so damn cheap. They aren't necessary, just nice things to have. I sell this stuff. So I invest a good amount of time, effort and energy into figuring out what parts and accessories do what, and whether or not they are worth it. If a customer asks a question, I want to be able to answer it without having to call up the manufacturer. It is not always possible. There is just so much stuff out there. You can't know everything about everything.Comment
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