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  • #76
    Jeffu
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 3380



    Girls & Guns

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    • #77
      Mr310
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2011
      • 5692

      Originally posted by InGrAM
      Oh, If its not carry then why do you want a baby glock? Get a 1911! LOL
      Haha, it's more of a novelty piece for me. That's why it's such a dilemma. If it were gonna be a piece I would completely trust my life to, I'd be looking past these two, but it's just for something to plink with and possibly have as a BUG because I'm bored with my Sig.
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      • #78
        jumbopanda
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2006
        • 8382

        Glock. Aside from the trigger and better looks, what advantages does a 1911 have over a Glock?
        Mo' BBs.

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        • #79
          hkdad
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 3112

          buy a 1911! my glocks are just sitting in the safe! regular range trip or competition shooting = 1911 and 2011 in the range bag. or get both so they won't accuse you for being a glock or 1911 fanboy. poll results tells all!
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          • #80
            Black Majik
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 9695

            Originally posted by jumbopanda
            Glock. Aside from the trigger and better looks, what advantages does a 1911 have over a Glock?
            Of course YMMV, but the main advantage IMO is the non-hinged trigger.

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            • #81
              InGrAM
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 3699

              Originally posted by jumbopanda
              Glock. Aside from the trigger and better looks, what advantages does a 1911 have over a Glock?
              Better ergos, less recoil(due to weight), after market parts, customizable, do it yourself gun smithing, There is a pretty long list.

              But yes, glocks are "more" reliable.

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              • #82
                InGrAM
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 3699

                Originally posted by Mr310
                Haha, it's more of a novelty piece for me. That's why it's such a dilemma. If it were gonna be a piece I would completely trust my life to, I'd be looking past these two, but it's just for something to plink with and possibly have as a BUG because I'm bored with my .
                Oh ok, I understand. I do this all the time. I just recently bought a "unfired" S&W 39 from the late 60's. Lol, Ya........ Nice gun though.

                Well, If I was you, I would get the 1911. No one brags about their "glock" because everyone has one, and they are all the same gun, just in different sized hands.

                I own a gen 2 glock, BTW.

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                • #83
                  sholling
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                  • Sep 2007
                  • 10360

                  It really depends on what fits your hand best. I personally dislike Glocks because of the oddball ergonomics and weird grip angle. They just don't fit my hand at all and shooting them beats the crap out of my trigger finger. But they are solid reliable handguns and if they fit your hand and you like their looks and ergonomics then go for it.

                  I personally prefer 1911s and M&Ps. I'm a huge fan of S&Ws Performance Center 1911s for a full sized 1911 but the less expensive non-Performance Center SW1911 (~$900-1000) is a super nice handgun as well. For a smaller carry sized pistol I prefer 4" "compact" or "CCO" 1911s over 3" ultra compacts. That's because the short fat 45ACP feeds more reliably with a 4" barrel and a 45acp really needs that extra inch to achieve closer to ideal velocities. Before 15 people jump in to to say that their 3" 1911 feeds perfectly their experience doesn't change the physics - a 4" is intrinsically more reliable and has better ballistics. BTW even though I own two Kimbers I am not a big Kimber fan because of their weaker than I like firing pin safety - however because of California's restrictions their "Compact CDP II" remains the best game in town. That said as soon as the list goes away I'm buying a Dan Wesson CCO and a S&W M&P45c.


                  S&W Performance Center PC1911 with Melonite over stainless, aftermarket short trigger and Esmeralda's slim grips.



                  Kimber Compact CDPII with aftermarket short trigger and Esmeralda's slim grips.
                  Last edited by sholling; 09-08-2011, 9:59 PM.
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                  • #84
                    Paradiddle
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 1743

                    Originally posted by Mr310
                    I'm not arguing for either one. I just don't want to be stuck with a gun that I'm too afraid to shoot for fear that I'll be stuck with a huge repair bill. If you can't understand my logic about the wars, that's fine, but it makes as much sense as your argument regarding the same thing.
                    I've been shooting for over 30 years. I've never had ANY of my guns "break down" and require expensive repairs and certainly NONE of my 1911s. I shoot a lot, I've competed (I put 5000 rounds down my CZ75 in 8 months), I reload, I don't baby them, but I don't drop them or do stupid stuff either.

                    I think you are basing your "fears" more on what you've read rather then what you've seen/experienced. Not a slam, just my observations.

                    You will not break a 1911 in your life unless you do somthing incredible silly. You will probably not even wear out the barrel.

                    That is my point.

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                    • #85
                      Paradiddle
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 1743

                      Originally posted by sholling
                      It really depends on what fits your hand best. I personally dislike Glocks because of the oddball ergonomics and weird grip angle. They just don't fit my hand at all and shooting them beats the crap out of my trigger finger. But they are solid reliable handguns and if they fit your hand and you like their looks and ergonomics then go for it.

                      I personally prefer 1911s and M&Ps. I'm a huge fan of S&Ws Performance Center 1911s for a full sized 1911 but the less expensive non-Performance Center SW1911 (~$900-1000) is a super nice handgun as well. For a smaller carry sized pistol I prefer 4" "compact" or "CCO" 1911s over 3" ultra compacts. That's because the short fat 45ACP feeds more reliably with a 4" barrel and a 45acp really needs that extra inch to achieve closer to ideal velocities. Before 15 people just in to to say that their 3" 1911 feeds perfectly their experience doesn't change the physics - a 4" is intrinsically more reliable and has better ballistics. Even though I own two Kimbers I am not a Kimber fan because of their weaker than I like firing pin safety - however because of California's restrictions their "Compact CDP II" remains the best game in town. That said as soon as the list goes away I'm buying a Dan Wesson CCO and a S&W M&P45c.


                      S&W Performance Center PC1911 with Melonite over stainless, aftermarket short trigger and Esmeralda's slim grips.



                      Kimber Compact CDPII with aftermarket short trigger and Esmeralda's slim grips.
                      I'm digging your stand - did you make that or buy it?

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                      • #86
                        TheExpertish
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 3451

                        I voted 1911. As a former LEO Sigs and Glocks are for work, 1911's are for play. You already have a work gun so get something fun. Just my preference and 2 cents.
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                        • #87
                          InGrAM
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3699

                          Originally posted by Paradiddle
                          I've been shooting for over 30 years. I've never had ANY of my guns "break down" and require expensive repairs and certainly NONE of my 1911s. I shoot a lot, I've competed (I put 5000 rounds down my CZ75 in 8 months), I reload, I don't baby them, but I don't drop them or do stupid stuff either.

                          I think you are basing your "fears" more on what you've read rather then what you've seen/experienced. Not a slam, just my observations.

                          You will not break a 1911 in your life unless you do somthing incredible silly. You will probably not even wear out the barrel.

                          That is my point.
                          They only thing that should wear out is a few magazines and maybe a recoil spring. It is funny when people don't like, or think the 1911 is somehow a "fragile" little petite thing. Like a classic car that only gets driven on Sundays. It is just not the case, and I guess you have to use one on a regular bases to figure that out.

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                          • #88
                            tacticalcity
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 10929

                            Originally posted by Jeffu
                            JeffU has the coolest firearms. That Ed Brown Special Forces is no ordinary 1911. It is a work of ART, but of course it lighten's the wallet significantly. I put that one in my dream category. Right along with that red Ferrari I have always wanted.

                            Like I said before, while I personally prefer Glocks as a general rule there are lots of situations where the 1911 would fit the need better. Since the OP doesn't really have a specific need...either will do.

                            If he were asking about a really high end 1911 like an Ed Brown, Wilson Combat or Nighthawk that is a different story. But we are talking about an ordinary 1911. So the fanboys could afford to tone it down a bit. They personally might take the worst made 1911 over anything else on the planet, but reasonable people would not. This is not one of those cases where the 1911 he is considering is so amazing it outshines all other options. He's looking at an a very entry level 1911 which does not on its own merit outshine a Glock...not unless you are a total fanboy.
                            Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-08-2011, 11:54 AM.

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                            • #89
                              Cali-Shooter
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 9192

                              Originally posted by gadsdenarmory
                              I voted 1911. As a former LEO Sigs and Glocks are for work, 1911's are for play. You already have a work gun so get something fun. Just my preference and 2 cents.
                              I second this, OP, you should get a 1911, it's way more fun to shoot than a "duty" handgun like a Glock. A 1911 also makes an excellent nightstand gun. I also recommend you save up and buy a Springfield or Kimber, something in the $1,000 range, you won't regret it.
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                              • #90
                                Mr310
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 5692

                                Well, I know that it's not the same as shooting it, and that's what I'll have to do this weekend or later next week when I can rent them, but I'm off to the gun store to see some of those 1911s up close and personal.

                                Thanks for the peer pressure guys.
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