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  • #46
    Suvorov
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 1391

    I would stay away from the Beretta, I have read about all the locking block failures and you'll be lucky to have one before the slide fails and impales you in the face.

    I would stay away from Glocks because I have read about all the Kabooms they do. I read a statistic on the interenet that said that they Kaboom all the time.

    I would not touch a Sig, because the frame rails are cheap aluminum and crack all the time.

    S&W Third Gens are junk, because a lot of police departments use them and most police don't know anything about guns.

    Ruger P series are bad because Bill Ruger sold us out.

    1911s are no good because they are heavy and old and jam a lot.

    HK is cool, because they make cool t-shirts and dick Sharkman Marcinko says so as well.

    CZs suck because they were designed by Commies.

    The Browning HP is no good because it was designed by a Mormon and is old and not cool like the other guns.

    I figure, buy a HK if you can afford to spend $1000 for a lead thrower, otherwise you should just buy a cheap Bryco and save the money, because if you listen to all the internet experts, every other gun is crap.
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    • #47
      RECCE556
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 1221

      Originally posted by vallen
      The SW Sigma is a great gun. Sure it had bugs in the earlier models, but this has been nothing but a solid reliable shooter for me.
      Whatever floats your boat. There are people out there who actually think that their Blackthrone AR's are as good as Colts too...

      Originally posted by Suvorov
      The Browning HP is no good because it was designed by a Mormon and is old and not cool like the other guns.
      You forgot to mention that the 1911 is no good because it too was designed by the same Mormon...also, the BHP as we know it was also the result of a Dieudonne Saive refinement of JMB's design. Dieudonne Saive is Belgian so the BHP is only a partially Momon designed pistol. If you're gonna be a smart ***, as least be accurate.

      BTW, my SIG229 DID have a cracked frame rail. Went back to SIG, got fixed and got sold pronto. Some of us actually have experience with these pistols we speak of...imagine that.
      Last edited by RECCE556; 09-28-2007, 4:20 PM.

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      • #48
        Suvorov
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 1391

        Originally posted by RECCE556
        You forgot to mention that the 1911 is no good because it too was designed by the same Mormon...also, the BHP as we know it was also the result of a Dieudonne Saive refinement of JMB's design. Dieudonne Saive is Belgian so the BHP is only a partially Momon designed pistol. If you're gonna be a smart ***, as least be accurate.
        Son of a B! You are saying that the HP also has a Belgian in the mix? That makes it part European doesn't it? A EuroMormon gun, I rest my case.....

        BTW, my SIG229 DID have a cracked frame rail. Went back to SIG, got fixed and got sold pronto. Some of us actually have experience with these pistols we speak of...imagine that.
        Coudn't agree with you more.
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        • #49
          RECCE556
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 1221

          Originally posted by Suvorov
          That makes it part European doesn't it? A EuroMormon gun, I rest my case.....
          Hmmm, you might have point here...

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          • #50
            RAD-CDPII
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 996

            Originally posted by ivanimal
            I have a Walther P-22 that has never run right. I have sent it back to S&W three times with the same result. Ron Kennedy at Canyon sports has gone through it himself to no avail.
            I see what the problem is with this one, S&W. My PPKS was made by Interarms prior to S&W taking over the US work.
            The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by thoes who have not got it.
            George Bernard Shaw

            AKA RAD-G27

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            • #51
              Serpentine
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1048

              Beretta 92 and 96 and variations, including Taurus' rendition of the same. Pure and total complete TRASH!

              Malfunction after malfunction, even on fair weather Sundays on a public static range with quality factory ammo. Several have locked up completely with a live round jammed in the action, broken locking lugs even on the latest revisions. Had to be sent back to Beretta that way!

              This opinion from a range officer who's observed this pistol's performance on the firing line over the last 22 years.

              The devil himself sent our US troops overseas with this POS pistol!

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              • #52
                Cato
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 5659

                HK USPs inaccurate as sin with those triggers.

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                • #53
                  kpw001
                  Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 244

                  The Sigmas get a bad rap because of problems in the first generation models. The current generation (3rd, I think) is much more reliable and mine has 2k through it without a single problem. I've noticed that new Sigma owners like them a lot but I can understand, once burned its hard to see otherwise.

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                  • #54
                    pyro22
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 79

                    As long as this tread is I am amazed no one has has used the L word.
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                    LLAMA

                    Or maybe it was just universally understood, And I was the only one on this forum who was stupid enough to buy one. Or maybe am I the only one who will admit it.

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                    • #55
                      Sobriquet
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 820

                      Originally posted by Cato
                      HK USPs inaccurate as sin with those triggers.
                      Own one? I've never fired a USP that wasn't a tackdriver. My HK certainly is more accurate than I am firing without a rest.

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                      • #56
                        RedDawn
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2234

                        Originally posted by pyro22
                        As long as this tread is I am amazed no one has has used the L word.
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                        Or maybe it was just universally understood, And I was the only one on this forum who was stupid enough to buy one. Or maybe am I the only one who will admit it.
                        lol, I totally forgot about those.
                        I haven't seen one for sale in awhile.
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                        "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms, disarm only those who are neither inclined, nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants. They serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

                        -- Thomas Jefferson, 1764
                        *Excerpts from "On Crimes and Punishment" by Cesare Beccaria

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                        • #57
                          Waingro
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1214

                          To all the people I have spoken too, many people say Kimber 1911 are good, but when you talk to people who have tons of 1911's and work on them themselves they tend to say Kimber is over priced and is hyped up way too much.
                          You never hear the phrase eaten dead.

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                          • #58
                            PLINK
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1773

                            Originally posted by ivanimal
                            I have a Walther P-22 that has never run right. I have sent it back to S&W three times with the same result. Ron Kennedy at Canyon sports has gone through it himself to no avail.
                            I have heard of people having issues with the P-22's. I guess I am lucky because mine has been 100% out of the box with Federals, RGB, and CCI.

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                            • #59
                              PLINK
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 1773

                              Worst gun I ever shot was a FIE model 25. What a POS.

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                              • #60
                                liketoshoot
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 3810

                                2 come to mind for me, the sigma .40 and anything Rossi.
                                in my dealings with both I found them to be better used as weights for deep sea fishing.
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                                Thieves are the lowest form of life out there, except for liberal politicians, of course, but that's redundant.

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