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  • #31
    1911Operator
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2691

    I have my 1911 operator, with a light on the rail but not one chambered. I think if I had a DA pistol, I would have it chambered but de-cocked.
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    • #32
      TeckLancer
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 220

      Wow great responces. I have an xd 40 with those extremeshock bullets. Also have a lazer light on the rail
      XD40, Mosin Nagant 91/30, Saiga 762x39, Saiga 12, Stag model 2,vaquero bisley,GSG-522,NPM M1 carbine, romanian psl,Kimber custom 2,norinco sks,ruger 10/22,MPA mini defender 9mm,GSG 1911,Glock 19,Marlin 336,LWRC M6 SPR

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      • #33
        RollingCode3
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3221

        Originally posted by TeckLancer
        Wow great responces. I have an xd 40 with those extremeshock bullets. Also have a lazer light on the rail
        wow.. extremshock bullets? Just looking at those extremeshock bulletd ads in the gun magazine make me wanna cry.....
        Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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        • #34
          arc
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 204

          Originally posted by theneko
          If you don't feel confident to keep a loaded gun then you should not have a gun in the first place. That is my $.02 anyway - YMMV.

          I've heard this before. My question is how does one attain that level of confidence without having a gun in the first place?

          I didn't grow up with firearms. It just wasn't something anyone in my family had any interest in. So when I got older I had to educate myself. I read a lot and mainly what I found seemed to say that one of the keys to proper gun handling was to always follow the 4 rules and practice them so much that they became unconscious habit.

          Well, when I was new to owning firearms I didn't have that habit yet. I was unsure of my ability to safely handle a firearm because that ability was untested. So I kept my gun in a safe next to a loaded magazine with the slide open and the manual safety on. Very silly, i know. I wasn't certain that I wouldn't forget one of the rules and this practice made the loading/unloading/handling process all the more involved so I could double and even triple check what I was doing.

          I figured I lived in a safe enough neighborhood and I had multiple security layers that would alert me to an intruder with enough time to load, chamber, and unsafe my pistol.

          Now, years later I've got a gun with no manual safety and I keep a round in the chamber, because I've got more experience and I have the confidence to know I'm not going to screw something up. I still keep it in the gunvault because of my kid though.

          As to the original question I think the most important thing is to know your own level of comfort and training and act accordingly. If a person isn't comfortable with having a round chambered then they probably shouldn't, but they should train with that in mind so they don't forget to rack the slide in that one in a million chance that they really REALLY need a bullet there.

          -James

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          • #35
            greybeard
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1086

            If you train with one in the chamber, I think that is okay. Remember in an emergency we fail back to our level of training.
            John

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            • #36
              RollingCode3
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3221

              Originally posted by Rhythm of Life
              No reason to keep one in the chamber. If the guy is close enough that you can't rack your slide then your probably already %&@#ed.
              It is not about you have enough time to rack your slide and put one in the chamber. When you are in a life or death situation, do you think people actually remember to rack the slide? That is also the same reason why I dont like any manual safety on my handgun. There was a case a few months ago. Two guys tried to rob this place. The owner drew his gun first but there wasn't a round in a chamber. BAMM BAMM. The owner got two shots to the chest.
              Last edited by RollingCode3; 10-18-2010, 1:27 PM.
              Any gun owner who does not support the NRA is a freeloader.

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              • #37
                Doheny
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2008
                • 13820

                There's a saying that a gun without one in the chamber is just an ammo storage device.
                Sent from Free America

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                • #38
                  DaveFJ80
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2066

                  cambered or not chambered..... in a nightstand in in a Gunvault inside your nightstand..... all of that takes too long to get the gun out and ready to use.


                  You need to do this.... sleep with the gun under your pillow, one in the chamber, safety off since all that does is slow you down, hand laying on the grip and finger on the trigger!

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                  • #39
                    SamSung
                    Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 178

                    Of course it is chambered and ready to go!

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                    • #40
                      peter95
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2488

                      got the mag in, nut none in the chamber.... all it needs is a simple pull.

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                      • #41
                        wambrose02
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 54

                        M&P 45 with some PDX-1 mag in the well, not cocked. Along with my SOG Seal PUP Elite and 3D LED Maglite. Right next to the bed.

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                        • #42
                          Rhythm of Life
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2800

                          Originally posted by DannyInSoCal
                          If I was woken up by an intruders attack - I'd rather have a knife than an unchambered sidearm.

                          Anyone of us would have a hard time racking that slide with one hand - Given the many different situations where you might be fighting an intruder while trying to grab your HD weapon.

                          No kids at home - And my dogs always give plenty of warning - But ICSH - I'm GTG with one in the pipe for my sidearm.

                          However - I keep the Mossberg fully loaded but unchambered - In case a threat is down stairs.

                          The command to leave + The sound of the pump action may be enough to scare them away...
                          Originally posted by The Original Godfather
                          That's what I thought. But it wasn't about taking the time to rack the slide. I just didn't want to have to make any noise in order to be ready. If there's a round in the chamber, then I can control the point of contact and become vocal to intruders if need be.
                          Originally posted by RollingCode3
                          It is not about you have enough time to rack your slide and put one in the chamber. When you are in a life or death situation, do you think people actually remember to rack the slide? That is also the same reason why I dont like any manual safety on my handgun. There was a case a few months ago. Two guys tried to rob this place. The owner drew his gun first but there wasn't a round in a chamber. BAMM BAMM. The owner got two shots to the chest.



                          It all comes down to this, the man makes a good point:

                          Originally posted by GM_77
                          And if you had one in the chamber the gun is good to go for the bad guy as well! One can come up with dozens of scenarios for pros/cons of the condition the firearm should be in.

                          Whatever the condition the gun is in practice using it that way, I think either is fine.
                          The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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                          • #43
                            greybeard
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1086

                            Originally posted by DaveFJ80
                            cambered or not chambered..... in a nightstand in in a Gunvault inside your nightstand..... all of that takes too long to get the gun out and ready to use.


                            You need to do this.... sleep with the gun under your pillow, one in the chamber, safety off since all that does is slow you down, hand laying on the grip and finger on the trigger!
                            Hope you just forgot the sarcasm smilie.
                            John

                            The internet is like a 12 step group. Take what you need and leave the rest.

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                            • #44
                              RedFord150
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 5665

                              Originally posted by arc
                              ... If a person isn't comfortable with having a round chambered then they probably shouldn't, but they should train with that in mind so they don't forget to rack the slide in that one in a million chance that they really REALLY need a bullet there.

                              -James
                              This is why DA Revolvers make great HD guns. I do not worry about racking the slide or keeping a round in the chamber or whether it will feed my latest JHP's or will I 'limp wrist' it under pressure or will my magazine screw-up, etc.
                              Another fear with SA semi-autos is how quick the follow-up shot can come with adrenaline making the trigger finger twitch.
                              The big disadvantages with revolvers is only having 6 in the cylinder (or 7 or 8) and the time it takes to reload. I do keep a couple of speed loaders handy for an extra 12 rounds. Statistically, most HD situations never even require 6 shots.
                              I am just giving everyone something to think about. By all means, keep the semi-auto handy if that's the one you are most proficient with.
                              God Did Not Create All Men Equal, Colonel Colt Did.

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                              • #45
                                chesterthehero
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 2070

                                its a revolver so yes..
                                Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made, those were the days, and you know where you were then, girls were girls and men were men, mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight, gee our old Lasalle ran great, those were the days!

                                who wants a fishtank?

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