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  • #61
    znode
    Junior Member
    • May 2007
    • 79

    Originally posted by 1911Operator
    I would of thought 357 mag would do more damage, guess not. either way , if you get shot in the face it wont matter what its with, you gonna go down. 9mm is cheaper, consealable, can be shot out of a actual pistol, very easy to get a hold of. so thats why im goin with 9mm.
    Now you finally get it. You like pistols. Good. You prefer a pistol round to rifle rounds, good. That's your preference and opinion, and you have all the right to have them.

    Just don't confuse your opinion with facts, like "close runner up on the damage scale", or "seen plenty of balistic(sic) tests done" (clearly you haven't, or didn't understand them, otherwise you wouldn't be making these claims), or "223 will go right threw(sic) a person", or ".223 is just a peircing(sic) round", or claiming that .223 is ANYWHERE close to .22WMR.

    Instead of taking criticism gracefully and admitting your wrong in obvious facts that's accessible to anyone and 5 minutes of google, you instead decide to call anyone criticizing you trolls. What class.

    A .223 at its hypervelocity range (<125yd out of a rifle barrel, <75yd out of a carbine) is designed to cavitate and shred by fragmentation or even complete disintegration, INSIDE thin-skinned, CXP2-class tissue. This applies even to non-HP, military FMJ, along the cannelure. When used on thin-skinned, human-sized animal (pretty much just human, most CXP2 has thicker skin) it has has absolutely no equal in any pistol*, whatsoever. This is not a matter of personal preference, it's a matter of research and facts by countless people in years of terminal ballistics.

    *Yes, .223 will work better than .44Mag, .500, or even .460, on humans, especially considering ability for follow-up shots. We are thin-skinned, 200lb bags of water, which makes the fragmentation-based terminal ballistics of .223 especially powerful. On the other hand the magnum pistol calibers work much better than .223 in large game, or even medium game like deer, because .223 will waste too much energy outside of the skin and not achieve the same results. Same applies if said human is hiding behind cover. Terminal ballistics depends on momentum, energy, AND the type of target you are shooting at. Ignore any of them and you run the risk of being ineffective.
    Last edited by znode; 07-12-2010, 6:10 PM.

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    • #62
      patriot_man
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 2640

      Looks a lot like an MP9..

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      • #63
        Table Rock Arms
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 812

        Scrolled down and watched the videos, and one of them said that it will work with any Glock but the G18. As far as I can see the only reason to get one would be if it worked with the G18.

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        • #64
          Masterdebater
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 1095

          wow... these kinds of threads where its supposed to be a discussion and then turns into a damn class ruin this site. no where did the op try to "convince" u 9mm was better than the 223 for everybody except for before u guys gave him solid facts the 9 doesnt have more knocking power as he put it, then like 3 of u bandwagon him to make him look like an idiot? u proved the fact that he was wrong about 9mm having more knocking down power than the 223, after that he proceeded to just tell u reasons HE preferred the 9 over the 223, yet u STILL persist to "ream" him with facts of this and that making this thread no completely useless besides pictures. thats redamndiculous. once u posted the proof, there wasnt any ****ed up info and was the end of it. i tried to read through this bullying **** thinking it would have an actual discussion about the topic but no. get over yourselves and go talk about ur shottys and deagles to ur xbox live buddys. i want the last 10 minutes of my life back.

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          • #65
            Masterdebater
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 1095

            oh and btw i think it looks like a cool kit id love to have one for my 9mm. dont see how to in cali tho knowing how it is and all

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            • #66
              Notblake
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 512

              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              Originally posted by 1911Operator
              I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223
              ....

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              • #67
                1911Operator
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 2691

                Originally posted by Masterdebater
                wow... these kinds of threads where its supposed to be a discussion and then turns into a damn class ruin this site. no where did the op try to "convince" u 9mm was better than the 223 for everybody except for before u guys gave him solid facts the 9 doesnt have more knocking power as he put it, then like 3 of u bandwagon him to make him look like an idiot? u proved the fact that he was wrong about 9mm having more knocking down power than the 223, after that he proceeded to just tell u reasons HE preferred the 9 over the 223, yet u STILL persist to "ream" him with facts of this and that making this thread no completely useless besides pictures. thats redamndiculous. once u posted the proof, there wasnt any ****ed up info and was the end of it. i tried to read through this bullying **** thinking it would have an actual discussion about the topic but no. get over yourselves and go talk about ur shottys and deagles to ur xbox live buddys. i want the last 10 minutes of my life back.
                THANK YOU!!!! i was proven wrong! and IMO I still perfer the 9mm! ppl cant accept that or something, I think some of these guys have never been wrong or something lol, but most had good points to prove it. anyways, thanks for the support.
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                ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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                • #68
                  1911Operator
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 2691

                  Originally posted by Notblake
                  ....
                  wow really? we have been over that and no need to be immature about it. you must be one of those guys thats never wrong....
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                  ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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                  • #69
                    C.W.M.V.
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 4647

                    ...but ya Im with most of you guys here the KPOS looks really neat, too bad we wont get it here in this lifetime!

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                    • #70
                      1911Operator
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 2691

                      Originally posted by C.W.M.V.
                      ...but ya Im with most of you guys here the KPOS looks really neat, too bad we wont get it here in this lifetime!
                      yeah I really want one. you could get it but just have to take the stock off , or start paper work for it.
                      Have an idea or invention? Need something designed and made? Click: HERE
                      ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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                      • #71
                        Masterdebater
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1095

                        it definately looks badass is it expensive

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                        • #72
                          ZombieTactics
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 3691

                          Originally posted by 1911Operator
                          THANK YOU!!!! i was proven wrong! and IMO I still perfer the 9mm! ppl cant accept that or something ...
                          I don't have a problem with it - or you - at all. I like 9mm a lot myself.

                          I also think the KPOS and similar PDW type stock kits are fun and cool. I can even see cases where they could be quite practical. Add an after market 6-inch barrel and it starts to get interesting.
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