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  • 1911Operator
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2691

    Glock KPOS system

    has anyone ever seen or operated one of these? can we own these kits in CA if we disconnect the stock? with out a stock its pretty much a rail system for you glock isnt it? so I would think its ok to own? here is the link to them:

    As this product isn't on the companys website yet and I haven't seen anything about it on US websites, I'd like to introduce the KPOS pistol-stock that will be offered by FAB-Defense soon. I am aware of the legalities in the US adding stocks to pistols (basically making registering as a SBR with tax stamp necessary if I'm not mistaken). But as the Hera Stock is already swapping over to you, this is probably also interesting. I just handled this stock and only fired a couple of Simmunition


    I think its very pricey since its the same price of a new glock! but it is a nice kit. wouldnt mind owning one.
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    1911_Mitch
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 678

    Why would anyone want to bring a pistol to a rifle fight?
    CA born (5th gen), CA educated, Eagle Scout, NRA Member, Father, Small Business owner, Cancer survivor, Patriot

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    • #3
      1911Operator
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 2691

      Originally posted by 1911_Mitch
      Why would anyone want to bring a pistol to a rifle fight?
      more compact, easy to move around, very light and can be accurate to long distances. I really like it myself.

      edit:
      standard 9mm (115gr bullet) velocity is about 1,200
      standard .223 (55gr bullet) velocity is about 3,200

      I think id like the harder hitting 9mm over the .223. you can also get +p 9mm's in 147gr too. although .223's are peircing rounds, they wont stop someone like a 9mm would. 9mm is also cheaper then .223 , but both are very easy to get a hold of! I was issued a bran spankin new M4 for 3 years, they are nice but think the round is a little over rated. I wouldnt mind a AR in 9mm though.
      Last edited by 1911Operator; 07-11-2010, 8:08 PM.
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      • #4
        C.W.M.V.
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 4647

        Seems like it would be perfect for LE. Not everyone has a rifle in their car, but with this you could extend the reach and accuracy of a pistol.

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        • #5
          Oldnoob
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 2829

          Originally posted by 1911_Mitch
          Why would anyone want to bring a pistol to a rifle fight?
          It isn't taking a pistol to a rifle fight. It was more like taking a carbine to a pistol fight.

          I personally think those are great idea. But sadly our gun laws are too rigid for us to use this type of product.
          Taiwan born, Chinese descent, red white and freaking blue America citizen.

          Gun Control - A theory espoused by some monumentally stupid people; who claim to believe, against all logic and common sense, that a violent predator who ignores the laws prohibiting them from robbing, raping, kidnapping, torturing and killing their fellow human beings will obey a law telling them that they cannot own a gun.

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          • #6
            Lagduf
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 675

            You guys are telling me that if we could get SBR's in this state that you wouldn't get one?

            Looks like a lot of fun.
            Originally posted by Gio
            It is so nice to drop mags freely even though I do that now with my featureless AR and AK it is not the same as the real thing. Like Coca Cola here in the US compared to Mexico with real sugar not corn syrup!

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            • #7
              1911Operator
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 2691

              Originally posted by Lagduf
              You guys are telling me that if we could get SBR's in this state that you wouldn't get one?

              Looks like a lot of fun.
              oviously every one would! but....thats never gonna happen. never ever ever eeeeevveeeerrrrrr......never....ever...never ever! eeeeeveeeeeerrrrrrrrrr!
              NEVEEERRRR
              EVEEERR
              GONNA HAPPEN
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              ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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              • #8
                Josh3239
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2006
                • 9191

                Originally posted by 1911Operator
                more compact, easy to move around, very light and can be accurate to long distances.
                It is none of those things if you add that piece to it, kinda defeats the purpose of a handgun. That being said, without the buttstock at all in your possession it is legal. Even being near or owning the buttstock could trigger constructive intent.

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                • #9
                  Corbin Dallas
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                  • May 2006
                  • 6228

                  I don't get it. What does it do?

                  I don't see a longer barrel so what's the point? Just to have a stock? Close quarters combat? Why not just use it as a pistol?
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                  • #10
                    1911Operator
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 2691

                    Originally posted by Josh3239
                    It is none of those things if you add that piece to it, kinda defeats the purpose of a handgun. That being said, without the buttstock at all in your possession it is legal. Even being near or owning the buttstock could trigger constructive intent.
                    thats a good point, but in that case, we couldnt have mag rebuild kits then right?
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                    ✟ In the beginning was the 1911, and the 1911 was THE pistol, and it was good. And behold the Lord said, "Thou shalt not muck with my disciple John's design for it is good and it workith. For John made the 1911, and lo all of his weapons, from the designs which I, the Lord, gave him upon the mountain."✟

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                    • #11
                      Josh3239
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 9191

                      Originally posted by 1911Operator
                      thats a good point, but in that case, we couldnt have mag rebuild kits then right?
                      Why? Because of constructive intent? Constructive intent only goes for NFA. So if you have a Glock pistol upper that can accept a buttstock and a buttstock lying just next to eachother, not even touching. You could be found guilty of having an SBR. California has no constructive intent laws for rebuild kits.

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                      • #12
                        1911Operator
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 2691

                        Originally posted by Josh3239
                        Why? Because of constructive intent? Constructive intent only goes for NFA. So if you have a Glock pistol upper that can accept a buttstock and a buttstock lying just next to eachother, not even touching. You could be found guilty of having an SBR. California has no constructive intent laws for rebuild kits.
                        oh ic
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                        • #13
                          SJgunguy24
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2008
                          • 14849

                          Originally posted by Corbin Dallas
                          I don't get it. What does it do?

                          I don't see a longer barrel so what's the point? Just to have a stock? Close quarters combat? Why not just use it as a pistol?
                          3 points of contact will give the shooter a more stable platform to shoot from. If I had my my choice I'd go with a mech tech in 10mm, IMO the ultimate SHTF set up. Glock 20 on the hip, you need a longer shot, slap that frame into the Mech Tech and now you have 16" of barrel to push that 10mm round.

                          Oh thats illegal as all hell too without the NFA paperwork
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                          • #14
                            mswanson223
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 685

                            Hell yeah Id get one.

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                            • #15
                              Corbin Dallas
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                              • May 2006
                              • 6228

                              Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                              3 points of contact will give the shooter a more stable platform to shoot from. If I had my my choice I'd go with a mech tech in 10mm, IMO the ultimate SHTF set up. Glock 20 on the hip, you need a longer shot, slap that frame into the Mech Tech and now you have 16" of barrel to push that 10mm round.

                              Oh thats illegal as all hell too without the NFA paperwork

                              Ok, I get that the MechTech has a 16" barrel which would greatly improve accuracy, but this thing does NOT have that.

                              It's basically a factory pistol with a stock. Touted as being great for CQB.

                              I'm sorry, but I just don't get it. I don't see the advantage over just holding your pistol.

                              At distances less that 5 yards, I'd be willing to bet I can get more rounds on target faster with my pistol than anyone could with this add on stock.

                              The only advantage I see is the ability to add a red-dot sight.

                              Now if you were adding this setup to a G18 I could fully understand why.


                              I think this was a better design...

                              Last edited by Corbin Dallas; 07-12-2010, 9:07 AM.
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