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  • #91
    1911R SSS
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 862

    The Colt Delta Elite is the only reason we have the 10mm in 2021 plain and simple. That small cracking issue was resolved decades ago all they did was machine a small amount of the frame rail out problem solved. Most kids spewing nonsense on any forum have never even encountered issues but are quick to post away about what they heard on the internet lol. It's hilarious, I guarantee 99% of the people on here never even fired a Delta Guaranteed!!!! I've owned and still own multiple Deltas and DGCs for decades and still have not encountered a cracked frame. If the load has similar specs to the Hot Norma rounds you will have 0 issues with your Delta. You really think Colt would still produce the Delta if it couldn't handle the hot 10mm loads??? Use common sense not some kid on a gun forum talking about something they never encountered plain and simple. If you can afford it buy a Delta you won't regret it.

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    • #92
      baranski
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2015
      • 3852



      Seems like the G20/G29's have been scarce from Glock lately. I hope Santa is good to you!
      Originally posted by ACfixer
      there's plenty of sissies and snitches roaming the hallways here.

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      • #93
        RickD427
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2007
        • 9266

        Originally posted by 1911R SSS
        The Colt Delta Elite is the only reason we have the 10mm in 2021 plain and simple. That small cracking issue was resolved decades ago all they did was machine a small amount of the frame rail out problem solved. Most kids spewing nonsense on any forum have never even encountered issues but are quick to post away about what they heard on the internet lol. It's hilarious, I guarantee 99% of the people on here never even fired a Delta Guaranteed!!!! I've owned and still own multiple Deltas and DGCs for decades and still have not encountered a cracked frame. If the load has similar specs to the Hot Norma rounds you will have 0 issues with your Delta. You really think Colt would still produce the Delta if it couldn't handle the hot 10mm loads??? Use common sense not some kid on a gun forum talking about something they never encountered plain and simple. If you can afford it buy a Delta you won't regret it.
        I'm the gent that posted about the frame cracking issue earlier in this thread.

        I own two Colt Delta Elites, and have fired them quite extensively, although recently with .40 S&W loads as I have converted them both.

        Both of mine are original production models and do not have the frame modification that was done in later models.

        You can't have your argument both ways: 1) That it's small issue not worthy of attention, and 2) That it was major enough for Colt to change the frame design.

        The point still remains that the original 1911 design isn't up to the demands of the 10mm. If it was, there would have been no need to change it.
        If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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        • #94
          splithoof
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2015
          • 5878

          Originally posted by RickD427
          I'm the gent that posted about the frame cracking issue earlier in this thread.

          I own two Colt Delta Elites, and have fired them quite extensively, although recently with .40 S&W loads as I have converted them both.

          Both of mine are original production models and do not have the frame modification that was done in later models.

          You can't have your argument both ways: 1) That it's small issue not worthy of attention, and 2) That it was major enough for Colt to change the frame design.

          The point still remains that the original 1911 design isn't up to the demands of the 10mm. If it was, there would have been no need to change it.

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          • #95
            crufflers
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2011
            • 12723

            Underwood has ruined enough Deltas to place a disclaimer not to use their ammo with the Delta Elite. Did they remove that directive from their site ?

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            • #96
              Ewok55
              Member
              • Mar 2018
              • 315

              Enough of the Delta haters! Let's talk Glock Kaboom! Google it and you will find more.

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              • #97
                dozer wright
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 2764

                Originally posted by Ewok55
                Enough of the Delta haters! Let's talk Glock Kaboom! Google it and you will find more.

                https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...20-kaboom/amp/
                Underwood stepped up to the plate on this one and others. Underwood takes care of the customers as far as I'm concerned.
                I had been part of a recall of Underwood ammo specifically 44 mag and they threw in a couple extra boxes of ammo for the trouble.

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                • #98
                  Horsewright
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 662

                  And why do we worry about such things?



                  I'm 6'3" about 230 and have pretty big paws my ownself!



                  Out cutting some firewood Sunday afternoon.

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                  • #99
                    splithoof
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2015
                    • 5878

                    Originally posted by Horsewright
                    And why do we worry about such things?

                    I'm 6'3" about 230 and have pretty big paws my ownself!

                    Out cutting some firewood Sunday afternoon.

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                    • JTROKS
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 13093

                      Originally posted by crufflers
                      Underwood has ruined enough Deltas to place a disclaimer not to use their ammo with the Delta Elite. Did they remove that directive from their site ?
                      The wise man said just find your place
                      In the eye of the storm
                      Seek the roses along the way
                      Just beware of the thorns...
                      K. Meine

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                      • crufflers
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 12723

                        Originally posted by baranski
                        Seems like the G20/G29's have been scarce from Glock lately. I hope Santa is good to you!
                        Sportsman's Warehouse has a sparse insert in the new mailer I just received but TWO Glocks on sale for what look like OLD prices... $549 for G29SF's and $499 for G17's... GEN3's... yes this is a CA local mailer.

                        I have those or a multiples in the G17... but that is a great sign even if it is a sale price and they sell out in 1 minute.

                        If I go in to look for 1301's I will check for G20's.

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                        • Ivan Bliminse
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2021
                          • 6

                          I just picked up my first handgun about 2 months ago. It was also a Glock 20SF. Originally, I wanted a 9mm G17 but I have really big hands and the gentleman at the shop suggested I hold one first before buying. So I did, and then he made the recommendation that I go with the G20SF because the slightly bigger grip fit my hand better. So I did that too. Still have yet to go down to a range though because 10MM has been very hard to find in my area and they had none at the time of purchase either. Wish I would've known that before buying.

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                          • RickD427
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 9266

                            Originally posted by Ivan Bliminse
                            I just picked up my first handgun about 2 months ago. It was also a Glock 20SF. Originally, I wanted a 9mm G17 but I have really big hands and the gentleman at the shop suggested I hold one first before buying. So I did, and then he made the recommendation that I go with the G20SF because the slightly bigger grip fit my hand better. So I did that too. Still have yet to go down to a range though because 10MM has been very hard to find in my area and they had none at the time of purchase either. Wish I would've known that before buying.
                            Ivan,

                            Keep a watch on Gunbroker and the major websites (Brownell's, Midway, Bruno's and Natchez). In just the last six weeks, I've been able to get all of the needed ingredients to make up a bunch of 10mm and other pistol rounds. It's not easy, but the stuff is starting to slowly become available.
                            If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                            • Sailormilan2
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 3473

                              Originally posted by RickD427
                              The point still remains that the original 1911 design isn't up to the demands of the 10mm. If it was, there would have been no need to change it.
                              I consider the 1911 style and 10mm to be similar to the original S&W Model 19 and 357 Magnum loads. The original Model 19 could handle 357 magnum loads, but it was designed for LE use. Practice and train with 38 Special, but carry 357 Magnum. Too much 357 Magnum shooting would loosen the Model 19. Newer models have been improved so that is not necessarily the case any more.
                              1911 will handle full bore 10mm loads, but my personal preference is to shoot mostly mid range, or within book loads. But when serious use is called for, I will upgrade to full house loads like Underwood. I've shot Underwood loads in mine, and nary a bulge or a smile.
                              Last edited by Sailormilan2; 12-07-2021, 1:20 PM.

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                              • crufflers
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 12723

                                Originally posted by Ivan Bliminse
                                I just picked up my first handgun about 2 months ago. It was also a Glock 20SF. Originally, I wanted a 9mm G17 but I have really big hands and the gentleman at the shop suggested I hold one first before buying. So I did, and then he made the recommendation that I go with the G20SF because the slightly bigger grip fit my hand better.
                                I scored a G41 back in 2014 or so. Because of Glock modularity, I also have a Gen4 G20 slide for the frame and a G40 MOS slide for the frame.

                                I also have a 29SF like the ones that are at Sportsmans. I need to pickup some new sights for the 29SF... it is wearing one of those odd Mepro FT Bullseye sights right now, and I never fell in love with it.

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