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  • pj0314
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 89

    how does one shoot so fast??

    so been watching some videos that multiple actors/actresses did for training for the movie john wick 3, also other videos of people in competitions. how do they shoot like they are shooting 22lr pistols?? it seems like there is barely any recoil at all when they shoot? is it the gun or the people or both??
  • #2
    jumbopanda
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2006
    • 8382

    It's mainly a matter of having a firm grip, good trigger control, and an appropriately sized target for fast shooting. Keep in mind that when you see people shooting 6 rounds per second, it's usually at a large silhouette target no more than 7yds away. You won't see too many people hitting 3" bullseyes at 25yd at that kind of speed.
    Mo' BBs.

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    • #3
      AFTII
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 1617

      The of muzzle rise is determined by the shooter's grip, the round and/or the the gun. All other things being equal, it is the shooter's grip the most influences muzzle rise.

      In free states, the addition of a compensator can reduce both muzzle rise and perceived recoil. I haven't seen John Wick 3 yet, but IIRC he has used compensated guns in the past.

      Bore height also contributes to muzzle rise. Typically the lower the barrel sits vis-a-vis the top of the shooter's grip, the less muzzle rise. Finally, there is of course, the caliber / ammo factor. Shooting a blank on a movie set is not going to generate as much recoil as a 700 gn 500 S&W load.

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      • #4
        therealnickb
        King- Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2011
        • 8943

        Well, I’m sure in the movies they don’t shoot any real projectile. And probably use minimal powder to cycle the gun.

        Never mind, you’re talking about training. Still, probably low powder 9.

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        • #5
          pj0314
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 89

          well the videos i been watching are actually the videos they shot for training. it is quite amazing to see those hollywood stars shooting like pros with those STI/taran tactical pistols... i mean i dont know how much training hours they put in, but personally, i can only shoot that fast with my 22lr pistols lol!!!

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          • #6
            SAD338
            Banned
            • Mar 2018
            • 580

            Shooting is visual. Once you are able to call your shots, you can shoot much faster.

            Practical shooting competition helps a lot

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            • #7
              Scratch705
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 12530

              Originally posted by pj0314
              so been watching some videos that multiple actors/actresses did for training for the movie john wick 3, also other videos of people in competitions. how do they shoot like they are shooting 22lr pistols?? it seems like there is barely any recoil at all when they shoot? is it the gun or the people or both??
              like others have said, training and sometimes equipment.

              you don't just start shooting fast (and still hit the target) right off the gate.
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              • #8
                teflondog
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 4011

                If you watch Halle Berry shooting the Glock 17, her double tap groups are at least 10" wide. Hitting a man-sized target within 10-15 feet isn't difficult even for novice shooters.

                Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
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                • #9
                  broadside
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 1521

                  practice. lots of practice.

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                  • #10
                    brix
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 613

                    Originally posted by pj0314
                    so been watching some videos that multiple actors/actresses did for training for the movie john wick 3, also other videos of people in competitions. how do they shoot like they are shooting 22lr pistols?? it seems like there is barely any recoil at all when they shoot? is it the gun or the people or both??
                    It's both, but it is also who he's training with. Taran Butler was a top competitive shooter, and has built the pistols for speed and accuracy. Taran knows his stuff. There is a reason why people pay a lot of money to train with top competitive shooters, because they can watch how you shoot and help you shoot faster by correcting the small things and teach you techniques to shoot faster accurately. What it comes down to it practicing the correct techniques under a watchful eye and taking that feedback and pushing yourself to improve just like and sport.

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                    • #11
                      SnWnMe
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 6897

                      How do you get good at anything? You study and apply what you learned. A lot and often.

                      Shooting fast = trigger time.
                      Frank Da Tank

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                      • #12
                        'ol shooter
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 4646

                        Hollywood actors are so fast because they are faking it, Jerry Miculek is so fast because he,
                        (a) Sold his soul to the Devil at the Crossroads at Midnight
                        and
                        (b) Pops off a couple thousand rounds a day on his private range right outside his door, with all the ammo provided by his sponsors.
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                        • #13
                          furyous68
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 1878

                          Originally posted by pj0314
                          well the videos i been watching are actually the videos they shot for training. it is quite amazing to see those hollywood stars shooting like pros with those STI/taran tactical pistols... i mean i dont know how much training hours they put in, but personally, i can only shoot that fast with my 22lr pistols lol!!!
                          From what I've read, Keanu Reeves caught the bug of competition shooting during the Matrix series. He shoots quite often... I don't believe he is faking it. I remember seeing footage of the young girl from Kick-*** doing drills. That was cool to see. Unfortunately, most actors/ actresses provide no doubt about their anti-gun beliefs... especially those in action movies. I don't know & haven't read about anything Keanu has said on the issue... he seems to keep his thoughts & beliefs fairly private.
                          95,000,000 people die each day in the U.S. from gun violence

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                          • #14
                            brix
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 613

                            Originally posted by Scratch705
                            like others have said, training and sometimes equipment.



                            you don't just start shooting fast (and still hit the target) right off the gate.
                            Yep and unfortunately it's hard to find places to practice and train when getting started unless you have access to a private range in CA or go out to BLM.

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                            • #15
                              Canucky
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 4265

                              They post agree and keep their word. Straight shooters.

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