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  • #31
    JTROKS
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 13093

    Mostly all competitive shooters get into the equipment gaming. A custom STI that fits you well will be a +. You need to ask yourself how much better you will shoot as in faster and more accurate with the STI. Is your current equipment slowing you down? Or is it just the cool factor?
    The wise man said just find your place
    In the eye of the storm
    Seek the roses along the way
    Just beware of the thorns...
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    • #32
      Spike8484
      Member
      • Jun 2015
      • 479

      Sounds like the majority of you have no problem dropping $$ on a nice gun. It's funny when people in my family that don't care about guns and they find out how much a pistol like STI cost they flip out and think I'm out of control for spending that kind of money on a gun. They will never understand but that $50,000 SUV they own ant no big deal

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      • #33
        Spike8484
        Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 479

        Originally posted by JTROKS
        Mostly all competitive shooters get into the equipment gaming. A custom STI that fits you well will be a +. You need to ask yourself how much better you will shoot as in faster and more accurate with the STI. Is your current equipment slowing you down? Or is it just the cool factor?
        Current equipment deffinstely not slowing me down I smoke STI shooters every week with my g34 but deep inside I still feel like a loser cause my plastic gun lol. So much cooler than a glock sooo much

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        • #34
          Spike8484
          Member
          • Jun 2015
          • 479

          Originally posted by tanks
          It is not on the roster, he is already paying a premium for a $2,000 gun ( https://dawsonprecision.com/sti-2011-edge-9x19/ ). That being said it is a huge upgrade over a Block 34.

          They can be had cheaper though at 2,200 - 2,400 or so in the Marketplace. One thing to add, the factory STI Edge will need a trigger job to bring the trigger pull down from factory 4-5 lbs to the 1.5lbs range, which costs about $375 including the parts.
          Correct not on the roster but I am able to get it brand new it's the DVC limited in 3 gun to Be exact. Then probably trigger job and get grip safety pinned right off the bat

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          • #35
            Spike8484
            Member
            • Jun 2015
            • 479

            Also I'm one of those guys that likes to talk crap at the match about how my plastic gun shoots just as good if not better than all them custom guns. And deep inside I'm just mad that I don't have one lol. And I think everyone that does shoot plastic guns thinks the same thing lol

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            • #36
              Capybara
              CGSSA Coordinator
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2012
              • 15561

              Hate to be the party pooper, but unless you are consumer debt free, have plenty of money in savings, regular retirement contributions, kids college is saved for or paid for, you probably would be smarter to put $3k toward fulfilling those common fiscal responsibilities. Nice gun, but to buy it would probably not be smart move because its a want, not a need. You shouldn't buy wants unless all you and your family's needs have been met. I'm going through the exact same decision except with a rifle. I really WANT the rifle but totally don't need it. It's a lot less money, about half of your pistol, but then add optic, optic mount, bipod, new brass and I am right up to where you are. I talked myself out of it, for the moment because I have consumer debt, my retirement is not as well funded as it should be and daughter is graduating and her student loans will be due. Guess who the payments will default to if she doesn't land a decent job? Plus a son who is a high school senior and will be entering college. I have no business shelling out $3k for a want. But who knows, maybe you do? Perhaps you are wealthy or have been smarter fiscally than most of us? But if you haven't...
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              • #37
                Spike8484
                Member
                • Jun 2015
                • 479

                Originally posted by Capybara
                Unless you are consumer debt free, have plenty of money in savings, regular retirement contributions, kids college is saved for or paid for, you probably would be smarter to put $3k toward fulfilling those common fiscal responsibilities.

                Nice gun, but to buy it would probably not be smart move because its a want, not a need. You shouldn't buy wants unless all needs have been met.
                That's the kind of mentality I'm trying to talk myself out of only one of those not checked off is college for my children

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                • #38
                  tanks
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 4038

                  Originally posted by Spike8484
                  Correct not on the roster but I am able to get it brand new it's the DVC limited in 3 gun to Be exact. Then probably trigger job and get grip safety pinned right off the bat
                  OK. Then the cost is about right. You said Edge in the OP. I just DROSed an Edge last night, as soon as I get it on the 13th, it goes off to my gunsmith in CO for the trigger job and getting the grip safety pinned.

                  In regards to not buying it until you have a million in the bank to pay for the house, kids' college etc., if it is affordable then go for it. A $3K firearm is minuscule in the overall realm of things. One also has to live and enjoy life. Not to mention it is a one time purchase, real cost of competitive shooting is the entry fees, training, travel, and ammo.
                  "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
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                  • #39
                    DNA
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1517

                    Let them carry their own loans so that they can learn the value of the dollar.

                    It's 3k. The same as many people spend on a vacation. The same as an upgrade from a civic to an accord. You'll scrimp somewhere else on something that means a lot less to you to enjoy this STI.

                    Go for it.

                    Dan
                    Last edited by DNA; 01-04-2017, 1:53 PM.
                    Originally posted by bigmike82
                    That doesn't matter.

                    If you believe in Liberty, you should believe it for everyone, not simply those whom you agree with.

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                    • #40
                      Spike8484
                      Member
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 479

                      Originally posted by DNA
                      Let them carry their own loans so that they can learn the value of the dollar.

                      Dan
                      lol that's kind of what I was thinking bunch of pussie kids coming up now days don't know what work is.

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                      • #41
                        calif 15-22
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 5988

                        Originally posted by Spike8484
                        I am torn between letting myself buy a rather pricey new gun. Specifically a $3000 STI edge in 9mm for 3 gun. Do I need it absolutely not I'm sure I can do just fine with my current setup (Glock 34) but the opportunity presented itself and it's just one of those things. How do you justify spending this much on a Pistol. Specifically ways to get my wife on the same page lol. I keep talking myself out of it. I say it won't make you better shooter spent the money on better things lol can't think of anything better yet. But $3000 for a pistol and. That's just the beginning. What does everyone think

                        Hmmmm . . . Let me ask a couple of questions if I may:

                        1. Would the $3000 cover a months mortgage?
                        2. Would the $3000 cover a months take home pay?
                        3. Would the $3000 make you any better at 3 Gun?

                        See below for your personalized "What to do"

                        y,y,n = Don't buy it as it's more than a Mortgage payment AND your take home salary. Use that money to make an extra mortgage payment.

                        y,n,n = Don't buy it and use the money to make an extra mortgage payment.

                        n,n,n = You know the answer to this right? Don't buy it.

                        x,x,y = You think a $3000 gun is gonna make you any better than your Glock 34? Hmmmm


                        Your money of course, but you did ask us for our opinion. I'm not sure a $3,000 STI is a wise purchase UNLESS you shot 3-gun for a living and or your were sponsored by STI and got the gun for free.


                        $3,000 buys a ton of ammo, 3-4 Glocks, a week of personal 3-gun training by a pro, etc. etc.

                        Then there is the wife thang. What if she wanted a $3000 upgraded diamond? Would you let her get it. It's not like it's gonna make you more married than a $500 diamond.

                        Tough call . . . But if you are here to ask, then your gut is already telling you probably not a great idea right now. As someone that been married for 30yrs this month, my wife and I long ago established a "amount we can spend without asking for permission or even telling the other person". For us that is $1,000 bucks but our Mortgage is nearly paid off and we are in our mid 50's

                        Good luck . . .Oh and post the pics when you get it . . . cause we both know you are gonna get it!
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                        • #42
                          Spike8484
                          Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 479

                          Originally posted by calif 15-22
                          Hmmmm . . . Let me ask a couple of questions if I may:

                          1. Would the $3000 cover a months mortgage?
                          2. Would the $3000 cover a months take home pay?
                          3. Would the $3000 make you any better at 3 Gun?

                          See below for your personalized "What to do"

                          y,y,n = Don't buy it as it's more than a Mortgage payment AND your take home salary. Use that money to make an extra mortgage payment.

                          y,n,n = Don't buy it and use the money to make an extra mortgage payment.

                          n,n,n = You know the answer to this right? Don't buy it.

                          x,x,y = You think a $3000 gun is gonna make you any better than your Glock 34? Hmmmm


                          Your money of course, but you did ask us for our opinion. I'm not sure a $3,000 STI is a wise purchase UNLESS you shot 3-gun for a living and or your were sponsored by STI and got the gun for free.


                          $3,000 buys a ton of ammo, 3-4 Glocks, a week of personal 3-gun training by a pro, etc. etc.

                          Then there is the wife thang. What if she wanted a $3000 upgraded diamond? Would you let her get it. It's not like it's gonna make you more married than a $500 diamond.

                          Tough call . . . But if you are here to ask, then your gut is already telling you probably not a great idea right now. As someone that been married for 30yrs this month, my wife and I long ago established a "amount we can spend without asking for permission or even telling the other person". For us that is $1,000 bucks but our Mortgage is nearly paid off and we are in our mid 50's

                          Good luck . . .Oh and post the pics when you get it . . . cause we both know you are gonna get it!
                          Hmmm I like honesty. The grown up inside of me says don't do it but my inner child says do it and my wife don't care cause if I do buy she gets $3000. So in reality it will be costing me $6000 for this gun not $3000 lol which makes it harder choice

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                          • #43
                            calif 15-22
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 5988

                            Originally posted by Spike8484
                            Hmmm I like honesty. The grown up inside of me says don't do it but my inner child says do it and my wife don't care cause if I do buy she gets $3000. So in reality it will be costing me $6000 for this gun not $3000 lol which makes it harder choice
                            I hate that grown up inside of me as well.

                            Tough call . . . but your call my friend. $6,000 for a 3-gun seems a bit steep.

                            Hell get yourself a VP9 and clear all the targets with a single round!
                            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                            It's one thing to question everything . . . It's entirely another thing to reject simple, rational explanations in favor of ever more fantastic and far reaching explanations because you've decided the government cannot be trusted.
                            Originally posted by Hoooper
                            Anyone who says the American dream requires a specific pay range doesn't understand the meaning of the American dream
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                            • #44
                              Spike8484
                              Member
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 479

                              Ok I'm laying out out telling my personal income and all the crap I pay to get a precise answer.
                              I own my own business very stable job year round but can cost me $5000 at any moment just to fix a broken piece of equipment. My business is 100% debt free. I owe 145,000 on mortgage got a 15 year loan $1200 month.
                              I pay myself $4000 a month take home the rest goes into business account,
                              I have $30,000 in my savings/business emergencies fund. this is where gun money would come from. Got a wife and 2 children under 4 years old . No other debt or payments other than utilities. I can put in enough overtime this month to get my extra $3000 but not the total of $6000 I need

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                              • #45
                                tanks
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2014
                                • 4038

                                With what you mentioned I do not see a problem in buying the firearm. Get it out of the $30K, and then pay it back with the overtime you mentioned in the next few months.

                                One other thing to consider is that, this being CA, in case of an emergency you will be able to sell that gun for at the very least for what you paid for it if not for more.
                                "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                                "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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