Why do people delete the price when they have sold their pistol?

[I Swan]

I can't believe some people are of such a child like mentality and have so much free time that they went back to delete "private" sales info from old sale posts they had made simply out of spite and anger over this thread.

[devious21]

So again, are you really interested in the final sales price or the listed price?

And again, just asking to leave the listed asking prices up. The ones that were already public. No one is asking for intimate details of the transaction, or who the buyer was, or anything like that.

Asking price is valuable, just like the asking price of a house or car is valuable. It may be less valuable than the final sales price (which is the most valuable piece of information), but that doesn't mean it's automatically completely worthless information. And for off-roster firearms, where we have very little to work with, it's still very helpful.

[I Swan]

Last one or two 10mm handguns I sold or have attempted to sell were on CGN both were scarce off roster pistols and I did look on here for past asking and sale price ammo. I'm tired of the games and pettiness here that's why I care less and less about keeping guns in CA I've sold a nice off roster handgun or two through auction houses that I know left the state partly because of bs here.

I also was curious on selling prices of MR73 revolvers here a member was gracious enough to tell me via PM what his sold for. Info like that is hard to find.

[devious21]

I can't believe some people are of such a child like mentality and have so much free time that they went back to delete "private" sales info from old sale posts they had made simply out of spite and anger over this thread.

It's unfortunate for sure. Lots of goading "we'll delete everything, so save any data you want or create your little apps". That kind of attitude is a shame.

On a positive note, while I was reading up on how to write a script so I could save all the data for myself, I also used my free time to try setup something the community could access. You can google 'Wayback Machine' and you'll now be able to find older versions of threads, to find that removed price on posts after July 11th. It's not searchable, so you'll need to know the url of the post to retrieve it. It's not as functional as what I'll eventually have, but it's at least something that benefits someone other than me.

So, if they want to nuke all the threads, that's their decision. But at the end of the day, they're making their for sale advertisements available to everyone and everything on the internet. If it can be read, it can be saved.

[devious21]

I can't believe some people are of such a child like mentality and have so much free time that they went back to delete "private" sales info from old sale posts they had made simply out of spite and anger over this thread.

Last one or two 10mm handguns I sold or have attempted to sell were on CGN both were scarce off roster pistols and I did look on here for past asking and sale price ammo. I'm tired of the games and pettiness here that's why I care less and less about keeping guns in CA I've sold a nice off roster handgun or two through auction houses that I know left the state partly because of bs here.

Yeah that's understandable. If people here don't care about fostering a positive community for each other, why should people give a sh*t. The quality of the classifieds and the information and threads are only as good as the people here are willing to make it. Some just want to reap the benefits, while slowly making it worse.

In my experience, most people I've met through shooting and shooting sports, are some of the nicest and most helpful people, and I've tried to return the favor whenever possible. It really is sad to then come on here, which is the biggest online community for gun owners unfortunate enough to live in this great state, and see people care so little and just use it as an opportunity to troll the other members.

[max21]

Many here are creating new threads asking for the value of the gun they have or interested in buying/selling and many experienced members replied with their assesement. Maybe, Calguns should create a sub forum for "Price Check".

[Packy14]

Many here are creating new threads asking for the value of the gun they have or interested in buying/selling and many experienced members replied with their assesement. Maybe, Calguns should create a sub forum for "Price Check".

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1076552

The new reality, despite what swan and devious would like to believe

[devious21]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1076552

The new reality, despite what swan and devious would like to believe

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1076552

Devious21 will solve the problem of "overpriced" off list guns

I saw your post in that thread and I'm not sure what you're talking about and I'm getting the sneaking suspicion you aren't either.

I compared off-roster guns to Cuban Cigars. What part of that makes you think any of what's discussed in this thread would result in off-roster guns not being expensive in California?

The only thing we talked about that's close to that, is that I said buyers and sellers having access to pricing information will allow them to more accurately price their guns. Accurate doesn't mean the same price as the rest of the country. This is still California.

"Overpriced" meaning correctly valued high prices for the California Market and "Overpriced" meaning priced higher than the market will bear, are two different things, and you're confusing the two. Look up equivocation.

[Packy14]

I saw your post in that thread and I'm not sure what you're talking about and I'm getting the sneaking suspicion you aren't either.

I compared off-roster guns to Cuban Cigars. What part of that makes you think any of what's discussed in this thread would result in off-roster guns not being expensive in California? Look up equivocation.

The only thing we talked about that's close to that, is that I said buyers and sellers having access to pricing information will allow them to more accurately price their guns. Accurate doesn't mean the same price as the rest of the country. This is still California.

"Overpriced" meaning correctly valued high prices for the California Market and "Overpriced" meaning priced higher than the market will bear, are two different things, and you're confusing the two.

Lol you are definitely smoking something powerful man, because you think you are making sense, but you are not. I hope you get help soon.

[dyson]

Devious knows

[devious21]

Lol you are definitely smoking something powerful man, because you think you are making sense, but you are not. I hope you get help soon.

So you don't see the difference between guns being expensive because this is California, and guns being overpriced, meaning listed for more than what someone will pay?

If a Glock 43 sells for $900, is that overpriced or expensive? If people line up all day to buy it at that price, it's not overpriced. It's just expensive.

Is that really that difficult to understand?

[devious21]

Devious knows

Gotta turn it to mulch or it will come back like this when you're not looking

[joefrank64k]

Yeah that's understandable. If people here don't care about fostering a positive community for each other, why should people give a sh*t. The quality of the classifieds and the information and threads are only as good as the people here are willing to make it. Some just want to reap the benefits, while slowly making it worse.

In my experience, most people I've met through shooting and shooting sports, are some of the nicest and most helpful people, and I've tried to return the favor whenever possible. It really is sad to then come on here, which is the biggest online community for gun owners unfortunate enough to live in this great state, and see people care so little and just use it as an opportunity to troll the other members.

WTF?!?

Because I don't think that any of your arguments hold water -- and believe that leaving the asking price serves no useful purpose -- you use that as an indictment of my commitment to the CalGuns community, or my "helpfulness" in general? I just want to "reap the benefits" and make CalGuns worse? I'm just trolling?

Ok then...

[devious21]

WTF?!?

Because I don't think that any of your arguments hold water -- and believe that leaving the asking price serves no useful purpose -- you use that as an indictment of my commitment to the CalGuns community, or my "helpfulness" in general? I just want to "reap the benefits" and make CalGuns worse? I'm just trolling?

Ok then...

Haha. Sorry Joe, I don't immediately recall what your posts said but there's a pretty high probability that wasn't directed to you. I was directing that specifically towards what Swan was talking about, which was something a little different that simply disagreeing with me.

I have no problem with disagreement. It's a healthy part of discussion.

[I Swan]

Packy I see you looked at my profile was it for pricing and iTrader info or did you just want to be friends? I saw you caught a ban recently was it because of this thread?