CA CCW Map

[CSACANNONEER]

I'm thinking Shasta, and maybe a couple other "Jefferson" counties top the list for percentage.

Still, statewide, we are the 0.03%

Only 3 LTCs per 10,000 people? I think you're off by a factor of 100.

[Cokebottle]

Only 3 LTCs per 10,000 people? I think you're off by a factor of 100.

Ya, closer to 0.2%
40 million Californians, 70,000 LTC

Nationwide it's closer to 5%.

[baggss]

Only 3 LTCs per 10,000 people? I think you're off by a factor of 100.

Ya, closer to 0.2%
40 million Californians, 70,000 LTC

Nationwide it's closer to 5%.

The article above says the "average" issuance per county is 3 for every 1000 people.

However when I take the number of CCW permits for 2014/2015 (only counting 2015 where info is available, using 2014 when no 2015 data is available) I come up with ~76,233 statewide. Out of a population of ~38,864,818 (everybody open your calculator app) that comes out to 0.001961496% of the population has permits. One could simply "round" that number up to 0.002%.

Thats 2 (or 1.961...) "thousandths" of 1%, thats far less than the 2 tenths of 1% quoted above.

All that being said, we know the numbers I am using are not particularly accurate since the DOJ either stopped tracking the numbers (doubtful) or stopped reporting the numbers to the public for political reasons (far more likely). Once again, if you actually have a permit in this sate, you really ARE special. For all the green on the map, there really are not that many people in this state with permits to carry.

What should not be lost is that DESPITE all the green and the light green on the map, something like 22,082,919.7 (MILLION) CA citizens (or ~56% of the population) have little to no chance of getting a permit in this state should they desire one.

[SonofWWIIDI]

Thanks for your effort!

Still sucks here in Santa Clara county.

[Malumake]

The article above says the "average" issuance per county is 3 for every 1000 people.

However when I take the number of CCW permits for 2014/2015 (only counting 2015 where info is available, using 2014 when no 2015 data is available) I come up with ~76,233 statewide. Out of a population of ~38,864,818 (everybody open your calculator app) that comes out to 0.001961496% of the population has permits. One could simply "round" that number up to 0.002%.

Just FYI you just proved Cokebottle was right, .001961496 is not a percentage until you move the decimal 2 places to the right. Percent means per 100. So it would actually be .19%, rounded up to .2% like he stated.

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[Paladin]

The article above says the "average" issuance per county is 3 for every 1000 people.

Correction: for every 1,000 "Adults."

However when I take the number of CCW permits for 2014/2015 (only counting 2015 where info is available, using 2014 when no 2015 data is available) I come up with ~76,233 statewide. Out of a population of ~38,864,818 (everybody open your calculator app) that comes out to 0.001961496% of the population has permits. One could simply "round" that number up to 0.002%.

You've got to reduce that by ~25% to eliminate those under 18 y.o. Recalculate and it rounds to 0.3%

Acc to John Lott, PhD, the current average in the USA is 6.06% of the adult pop.: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=2814691

[baggss]

Just FYI you just proved Cokebottle was right, .001961496 is not a percentage until you move the decimal 2 places to the right. Percent means per 100. So it would actually be .19%, rounded up to .2% like he stated.

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I stand Corrected!

Correction: for every 1,000 "Adults."

You've got to reduce that by ~25% to eliminate those under 18 y.o. Recalculate and it rounds to 0.3%

Acc to John Lott, PhD, the current average in the USA is 6.06% of the adult pop.: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=2814691

That makes sense, I was strictly looking at the population as a whole. Thanks for the Link!

[Brother_Hesekiel]

My math works differently.

About 2 out of every 1000 Californians has a CCW permit. That's roughly 1 out of 500 people, infants, druggies, felons, and hookers included. My town of Ventura has about 100,000 people, so percentage wise, there should be about 2,000 CCW permit holders, which is about right.

[baggss]

My math works differently.

About 2 out of every 1000 Californians has a CCW permit. That's roughly 1 out of 500 people, infants, druggies, felons, and hookers included. My town of Ventura has about 100,000 people, so percentage wise, there should be about 2,000 CCW permit holders, which is about right.

The last best number for Ventura County is 1554 permits as of 31 Dec 2015. Thats out of a County population of 830,536 people. I'll let you do the math....

[Paladin]

My math works differently.

About 2 out of every 1000 Californians has a CCW permit. That's roughly 1 out of 500 people, infants, druggies, felons, and hookers included. My town of Ventura has about 100,000 people, so percentage wise, there should be about 2,000 CCW permit holders, which is about right.

Your mistake is the stats are usually given re. adults (i.e., 18 yo and older), such as in the vertical axis of this graphic:

[Paladin]

Below is a post I made in the OC thread in the Concealed Carry Info forum. Usually cross-posting is bad form, but I think the folks reading this thread will find it worthwhile:

You'll hear sheriffs say they're just following the law, the courts say they have to follow the law which requires GC. Or they'll say the courts' said they have to ask for GC, or that they do not have to accept SD as GC.

Those are all true BUT the sheriffs use those statements to make it seem like the courts or law says that they CANNOT accept SD as GC. That is FALSE. After the Peruta loss (as it stands now), and state law, sheriffs & chief CAN accept SD as GC and issue CCWs.

The antis are all hooting and hollering that Sac and OC are "handing out CCWs like candy" because each has issued almost 10,000 CCWs. Well, IIRC, OC has a pop of 3M. 1/4th of that is 750k who are <18, so that's 2.25M left. If just OC issued at the national average (6.06%), just OC should have issued 136,350 CCWs!

Add in Sac (1.5M pop), and that would add another ~65,000 CCWers. So, with just those 2 counties issuing at the average rate for the USA, we'd have 200,000 CCWers.

Instead our entire state has only issued ~80,000 CCW.

[bergmen]

All I know is the Sheriff of Mendocino County thanks us for having a CCW and carrying a concealed weapon. AND, he issues for GC of "Self Defense" or "Personal Protection" which we (wife and I) have used for the past 15 years or so successfully.

Dan

[baggss]

Uploaded the updated Table with more info as discussed/requested above.

[bergmen]

Uploaded the updated Table with more info as discussed/requested above.

BTW, thanks for the outstanding work, this is really great!

Also, what is the tiny green island at about 7:30 from LA County?

Dan

[baggss]

Santa Barbara Isl. (Small Green) and San Nicholas Isl. (Bigger Green). Both are green since they are part of Ventura County. All the rest of the Channel Islands are Red since they fall under either LA or Santa Barbara Counties.

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