CA CCW Map

[baggss]

Spring 2022 update posted.

Please post comments for additions and/or changes in this thread, PM or e-mail me.

[71MUSTY]

Nice work. Thanks

[SoCalPI]

Cool!

[SoCalPI]

I'm not a numbers guy, so which county has the highest percentage of ccw's per population and which is worst?

[baggss]

The article in the SacBee that I reference shows Fresno as the highest and SF as lowest, but that's in the total number of permits.

Maybe I'll a percentage of permits/population column to the next version.

[ron91710]

San Francisco recently doubled the number of CCW holders. They now have 4. (That info is about 6 months old but I think I can say that Frisco is the lowest county.

[grantar2]

Good work. Not easy numbers to track down. Nice to know OC has passed 9500.

[DrivenDoyle]

Nice thanks!

[Paladin]

I wouldn't go changing Sonoma to yellow yet....

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=18732016#post18732016

[Paladin]

I'm not a numbers guy, so which county has the highest percentage of ccw's per population and which is worst?

ETA: LA is the worst (greatest portion of it's "circle" is below the zero line), and Shasta is the best (at ~4.5% of the adult pop., even though the national average, not best, is 6% of the adult pop.)

From the Sac Bee article:

[baggss]

So that particular graphic is where I pulled the numbers that have a "~" next to them from. Purely based on my interpretation of the size of the circles in relation to the circles that had hard numbers attached to them (LA, Ventura, SF, Fresno, Orange etc...). I don't think any of those numbers is particularly realistic at this point but I wanted to see something that gives a general sense of what the numbers should look like based on available data.

Additionally I just built the formula in Excel to give me the percentages based on the info in the spreadsheet and the numbers are depressing.

Percentage for Fresno (Highest number of active permits) was 0.0076410893%

Percentage for SF (Lowest number of active permits) was 0.0000046253%

Interestingly, in line with the graphic, Shasta was 0.0389900464% based on there being ~7000 permits active.

If there are roughly 80,000 permits statewide, as the graphic and article state, out of population of ~38,000,000, then statewide permits are at 0.00210526%

What does this mean? IMO, in a state where everyone wants to be special, if you have a CCW permit you really ARE special!

From the Sac Bee article:

[Paladin]

So that particular graphic is where I pulled the numbers that have a "~" next to them from. Purely based on my interpretation of the size of the circles in relation to the circles that had hard numbers attached to them (LA, Ventura, SF, Fresno, Orange etc...). I don't think any of those numbers is particularly realistic at this point but I wanted to see something that gives a general sense of what the numbers should look like based on available data.

Additionally I just built the formula in Excel to give me the percentages based on the info in the spreadsheet and the numbers are depressing.

Percentage for Fresno (Highest number of active permits) was 0.0076410893%

Percentage for SF (Lowest number of active permits) was 0.0000046253%

Interestingly, in line with the graphic, Shasta was 0.0389900464% based on there being ~7000 permits active.

If there are roughly 80,000 permits statewide, as the graphic and article state, out of population of ~38,000,000, then statewide permits are at 0.00210526%

What does this mean? IMO, in a state where everyone wants to be special, if you have a CCW permit you really ARE special!

There was a study recently by John Lott, PhD and, IIRC, on average, >6% of Americans >18 yo have CCWs.

You, in making your map, are facing an issue I and the guy at CalCCW faced when revising/updating/maintaining their map: what does a color really mean? For us, it was ONLY the GC part of the CCW process (i.e., did NOT cover GMC hurdles, like letters of reference/recommendation, interviews with neighbors, employer/coworkers (or not), psych tests & interviews, etc).

Even then, there's the question of whether the rate of issuance (per capita) or total issuance numbers per county matter. I said, no, that does not matter. Why? Because some rural counties accept SD = GC and readily issue BUT not many people apply because the crime rate in that county is so low and folks are on fixed incomes (fed/state/local gov't employees, retired, etc.). Going by issuance #s makes the county look restrictive when in reality it is just the county residents being cheap, not wanting, much less needing to get a CCW vs the expenses involved.

[Tovarish]

Thanks for the work.

Are you sure Orange and Riverside should be light green? I thought they were issuing for self-defense.

[baggss]

There was a study recently by John Lott, PhD and, IIRC, on average, >6% of Americans >18 yo have CCWs.

You, in making your map, are facing an issue I and the guy at CalCCW faced when revising/updating/maintaining their map: what does a color really mean? For us, it was ONLY the GC part of the CCW process (i.e., did NOT cover GMC hurdles, like letters of reference/recommendation, interviews with neighbors, employer/coworkers (or not), psych tests & interviews, etc).

Even then, there's the question of whether the rate of issuance (per capita) or total issuance numbers per county matter. I said, no, that does not matter. Why? Because some rural counties accept SD = GC and readily issue BUT not many people apply because the crime rate in that county is so low and folks are on fixed incomes (fed/state/local gov't employees, retired, etc.). Going by issuance #s makes the county look restrictive when in reality it is just the county residents being cheap, not wanting, much less needing to get a CCW vs the expenses involved.

I agree with you pretty much across the board here. Since the first time I saw the map some years ago I clearly understood it was a tool to judge Good Cause and nothing else. The rest of the hurdles (Morals, cost, time, psych evals etc) can be equally as prohibited to many as Good Cause, but Good Cause is the "foot in the door" to even be considered.

Thanks for the work.

Are you sure Orange and Riverside should be light green? I thought they were issuing for self-defense.

Orange was, then wasn't and, from everything I can gather, is now issuing for Reasonable GC but not simply "Self Defense" as GC. Haven't heard much about Riverside though. If you have any references (posts by residents that show otherwise, RCSD web sight etc) I'll entertain making a change.

[Cokebottle]

I'm not a numbers guy, so which county has the highest percentage of ccw's per population and which is worst?

I'm thinking Shasta, and maybe a couple other "Jefferson" counties top the list for percentage.

Still, statewide, we are the 0.03%