Santa Barbara

[S45]

http://www.countyofsb.org/da/index.html) and Sheriff Brown will end up going through the same wringer as Santa Clara Co Sheriff Laurie Smith: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/...tting-process/CBS v. Block to force PRA compliance re. accepted GCs, Guillory v. Co of Orange (Gates), for 14th A EP attack and then Salute v. Pitchess to force issuance.

(3) We should win some sort of Carry at SCOTUS by 2022 July 01. We may win OC at CA9 en banc sometime before fall 2021 in Young, or a few months later in Nichols, or a few months after Nichols in Flanagan. Once we win a RBA OC we just do what they did in OH when the Ohio State Supreme Court said they had a right to OC back in 2003: we have OC demonstrations until the legislature passes Shall Issue CCWs.

Or maybe we should hold out for Constitutional Carry....

Sadly no concrete/written/video evidence that could be provided to a lawyer. No way to prove in court that those who made sizable contributions to his campaign were issued permits based on that action. Just such an odd coincidence I suppose. Same with the aviation point; the fact that I know several people who have had equal qualifications and applied and the one who was his aviation buddy got approved and the others got denied. But there's clearly no way to prove in court that that was the deciding factor for the issuance.

I am hopeful about your 3rd point that I bolded.
And I am doubtful (but still hopeful) about your last piece haha

[Big Jake]

(1) If you have evidence to prove the bolded assertion you should provide it to the Santa Barbara Co District Attorney’s office (http://www.countyofsb.org/da/index.html) and Sheriff Brown will end up going through the same wringer as Santa Clara Co Sheriff Laurie Smith: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/...tting-process/

(2) If someone in SB Co really believes what you wrote in and really wants a CCW they can hire a lawyer and use the old Preston “Billy Jack” Guillory approach: CBS v. Block to force PRA compliance re. accepted GCs, Guillory v. Co of Orange (Gates), for 14th A EP attack and then Salute v. Pitchess to force issuance.

(3) We should win some sort of Carry at SCOTUS by 2022 July 01. We may win OC at CA9 en banc sometime before fall 2021 in Young, or a few months later in Nichols, or a few months after Nichols in Flanagan. Once we win a RBA OC we just do what they did in OH when the Ohio State Supreme Court said they had a right to OC back in 2003: we have OC demonstrations until the legislature passes Shall Issue CCWs.

Or maybe we should hold out for Constitutional Carry....

Or maybe you should move about twenty-miles or so down to Ventura County where the VCSO will issue you a CCW!

[Paladin]

I spoke with Detective Deornellas ... He said they’d issue for Dark Red, probably for Light Red and maybe for Yellow, ...

I’m going to change my recommendation from making SB Co Yellow to Light Red since the LEO said approving a Yellow GC was only a “maybe.” With Santa Cruz and Imperial where the LEOs said “maybe” to Light Green GC we’re going with Yellow to be conservative. So for a consistent standard among counties SB will be Light Red on the next revision.

As always the map says it may be off by 1 color either direction so applicants with Yellow should still try if they really want a CCW.

[bubba542009]

Has anyone heard if lompoc PD would issue a ccw? Since I live in lompoc I don't deal with sb County sheriff

[Big Jake]

Has anyone heard if lompoc PD would issue a ccw? Since I live in lompoc I don't deal with sb County sheriff

Call them and ask but don't hold your breath!

[bubba542009]

I heard the police chief was for ccw to civilians but sheriff brown will not

[Paladin]

Has anyone heard if lompoc PD would issue a ccw? Since I live in lompoc I don't deal with sb County sheriff

Fjold is the resident expert on Lompoc. Ask him.

I worked for 5+ years with the politicians in the City of Lompoc to get their LTC policy in place and it is the first city in Santa Barbara County to go to self issue.

[Paladin]

(former?) Prince Harry & Meghan moved to Montecito (Santa Barbara Co). They’ve rejected performing royal duties. They now hear they’ll no longer have free royal bodyguards. Will they apply for CCWs like us “little people”? Would Sheriff Brown issue to them? Will their friend and fellow Montecito resident Oprah now push for liberalization of CCWs? LOL!

Public Records Act (PRA) requests in a year, anyone?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9340269/Former-royal-security-unit-chief-blasts-assumption-Harry-Meghan-retain-protection.html

[bubba542009]

Just got my denial letter from lompoc police department. Apparently the police chief is just as bad as sheriff brown and has same stand point.

[Paladin]

Just got my denial letter from lompoc police department. Apparently the police chief is just as bad as sheriff brown and has same stand point.

See post 146 above.

Are you now going to try to apply with the sheriffs office? There’s no harm in trying.

If you do try let us know how it goes.

[bubba542009]

I dont see a point to I already spoke to someone at sheriff office and he told me unless I own a business and need to deposit large sums of money they won't issue,and even then it would only be a LTC when going to the bank not outside of that

[bubba542009]

Our new chief of police doesnt honor the system pat Walsh put in place which allowed civillians to get their LTC

[Paladin]

I dont see a point to I already spoke to someone at sheriff office and he told me unless I own a business and need to deposit large sums of money they won't issue,and even then it would only be a LTC when going to the bank not outside of that

[S45]

Sorry to hear, Bubba.
This county sucks for CCW, none of the sheriffs want to deal with the liability.

[ezaircon4jc]

Sorry to hear, Bubba.
This county sucks for CCW, none of the sheriffs want to deal with the liability.

Don't they have to deal with the liability from other counties' ccw's?