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  • Gray Peterson
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2005
    • 5817

    Santa Barbara

    Anyone who gets denied in Santa Barbara Co (either by a city's PD or by the Sheriff's Office), and wants to fight it should read the following quote from my ("Paladin") post in the Monterey Co thread. (There they accept SD as GC, but push the GMC requirement.) The 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies to ALL aspects of the application process, not just GC and GMC.

    Originally posted by Paladin
    So, they say SD = GC, but then push GMC through the roof and, it appears, make your RKBA subject to your neighbors', co-workers' and friends' ratification....

    If Bernal does NOT follow this same procedure with ALL CCW applicants (think political donors, "friends of the sheriff"/"posse" members, politicians, celebrities), he's open for a Guillory-type 14th A Equal Protection federal lawsuit, but for GMC rather than GC.

    Hypothetically, let's say there's a world-famous film star (and director) who lives in (and was once the mayor of) Carmel-By-The-Sea, a city which, acc to CGF's 2013 survey, does not issue CCWs. We'll call him "Mr. E." Let's suppose Mr. E has a Monterey SO CCW. When it is/was time to renew, if the sheriff has the same policy for renewals that means his "background investigator" would have to go to Mr. E's neighbors (who, unlike his friends, may be hard-core antis), and "ask them if they would recommend [Mr. E] be issued a CCW permit." Not only would the same procedure have to be followed, but the same standard as to judging whether to issue or not be followed. IOW, let's say 1 of your neighbors says "Nyet!" when asked if you should get a CCW and because of that you are denied. If 1 of Mr. E's neighbors also said "No!" and yet was issued, that too is a 14th A Equal Protection violation.
    Last edited by Paladin; 07-09-2015, 8:53 AM. Reason: to reflect lack of CGF GC statements at link
  • #2
    CCWFacts
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2007
    • 6168

    I only know a few things about Santa Barbara. One, Sheriff Brown got the NRA endorsement and then stabbed gun owners in the back by not issuing CCWs. Two, there are a lot of extremely wealthy people in Santa Barbara, including some uber-wealthy uber-powerful liberals, like Oprah. You stir that into the pot, you're bound to have some really ugly things in their files.

    TBJ did some extensive research into the city of Santa Maria, and found some unbelievably wrong and bad things going on there. I've posted the entire case, including all the good cause statements.

    No surprise, Chief Macagni runs it in a very corrupt way, to the point that dentists, who are SMPD donors, have good cause, while highly trained nuclear security guards, who are first responders at Diablo Canyon, and who have assault weapons as their duty weapons, but who are not SMPD donors, miraculously do not have good cause.

    It's sad. It's stuff that should end Chief Macagni's career, but unfortunately, the prevailing mindset, at many levels, is that it's the chief's business and he can do as he pleases.
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    • #3
      gtturborex
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2009
      • 4783

      Lets fix this. I guess I'm the only one who cares enough about this in SB to donate.

      SB back to the top.
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      • #4
        Milsurps
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 2232

        Originally posted by gtturborex
        Lets fix this. I guess I'm the only one who cares enough about this in SB to donate.

        SB back to the top.
        I'd like to, but how? I won't deal with the gpal n paypal scams !

        I've recently started automatic monthly donations to Calguns Foundation with bill pay because of a physical address.

        Please advise.
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        • #5
          Gray Peterson
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2005
          • 5817

          Originally posted by Orcutt
          I'd like to, but how? I won't deal with the gpal n paypal scams !

          I've recently started automatic monthly donations to Calguns Foundation with bill pay because of a physical address.

          Please advise.
          You can donate via paper tool:

          The Calguns Foundation
          751 Laurel Street Suite 935
          San Carlos, CA 94070-3113

          Just make it clear that you're donating a sponsorship to a particular county and whether or not you want it anon or not.

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          • #6
            gtturborex
            CGSSA Coordinator
            CGN Contributor
            • Mar 2009
            • 4783

            Originally posted by Gray Peterson
            You can donate via paper tool:

            The Calguns Foundation
            751 Laurel Street Suite 935
            San Carlos, CA 94070-3113

            Just make it clear that you're donating a sponsorship to a particular county and whether or not you want it anon or not.
            Thanks Gray!!!
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            • #7
              mustang454
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 41

              Goleta,CA CCW NRA backed Bill Brown

              Myself and a hand full of people i know have HAD a CCW here in Goleta for many years...for me it was 8 years. That all changed when Bill brown became sheriff here in Goleta,CA.
              NRA indorsed Bill Brown, even when told many months ahead of time before the election that he is anti gun. NRA sent out a orange mailer to NRA membeers here in Santa Barbara county to vote for Bill Brown. ...see link.........http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/0...after-all.html ...............and............... http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2007/0...nying-ccw.html.

              ? Is calgun going to help get CCW,s back for people here in Goleta,CA that Brown denied renewals? If so i will contact people i know who had CCWs and ask for them to donate to the cause here in Goleta/Santa Barbara,CA.

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              • #8
                mustang454
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 41

                Goleta CCW

                Originally posted by Comp^2
                A CCW requires a full set of prints? And do I remember something about requiring letters of references being illegal? So many hoops....and chances are you'd probably get denied anyway.
                Been there done that all....passed all the requirements set forth for SB the first time i applied and got my CCW... this was a renewal (every two years )since first getting my CCW.Bill Brown is the problem....Two former sheriffs of Santa Barbara county issued and renewed my CCW ...no problem till Brown got in. Bill Brown is anti gun and was backed by NRA.

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                • #9
                  Gray Peterson
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 5817

                  Originally posted by mustang454
                  Been there done that all....passed all the requirements set forth for SB the first time i applied and got my CCW... this was a renewal (every two years )since first getting my CCW.Bill Brown is the problem....Two former sheriffs of Santa Barbara county issued and renewed my CCW ...no problem till Brown got in. Bill Brown is anti gun and was backed by NRA.
                  Another Fairfax PVF screwup. He didn't get the endorsement again in 2010.

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                  • #10
                    mustang454
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 41

                    CCW

                    Originally posted by Gray Peterson
                    Another Fairfax PVF screwup. He didn't get the endorsement again in 2010.
                    No one ran against him.....personal i don't believe it was a screw up.

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                    • #11
                      gtturborex
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4783

                      Originally posted by mustang454
                      ? Is calgun going to help get CCW,s back for people here in Goleta,CA that Brown denied renewals? If so i will contact people i know who had CCWs and ask for them to donate to the cause here in Goleta/Santa Barbara,CA.
                      I believe this is the ultimate goal. Contact your friends and lets do this.

                      What was the reason given for the denial of your renewal if I may ask?
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                      • #12
                        wildhawker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14150

                        Get your friends involved. The more information we have as to their good cause, moral character, etc., the better we can create strategy for that county.
                        Brandon Combs

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                        My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          mustang454
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 41

                          Originally posted by gtturborex
                          I believe this is the ultimate goal. Contact your friends and lets do this.

                          What was the reason given for the denial of your renewal if I may ask?
                          Bill Brown said that my reason is not a valid reason...funny my reason was valid the fist time i applied and got my CCW from the first sheriff and the second sherriff that won election and renewed no problem every time till now... .... and now the third one Bill Brown said reason is not valid. see link......http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/0...after-all.html

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                          • #14
                            gtturborex
                            CGSSA Coordinator
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4783

                            Originally posted by mustang454
                            Bill Brown said that my reason is not a valid reason...funny my reason was valid the fist time i applied and got my CCW from the first sheriff and the second sherriff that won election and renewed no problem every time till now... .... and now the third one Bill Brown said reason is not valid. see link......http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/0...after-all.html
                            Wow, it seems Bill Brown's reason for not renewing your CCW is the invalid reason. I hope Brown gets what he deserves, a swift kick in the ____, I mean a kick out the door.
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                            • #15
                              gtturborex
                              CGSSA Coordinator
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 4783

                              All this CCW talk is getting me excited!!! Any news or a time frame for Santa Barbara?

                              Thanks for all the hard work
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