San Joaquin

[Mayor McRifle]

Thanks, I was under the impression that the permit was a lot bigger than a standard ID slot.

Mine is slightly wider than a credit card, but substantially taller. I keep mine in a slot behind my driver's license (it's like an access area behind the ID slot with the window), secure and out of view. I just checked, and it fits in the credit card slots, but it sticks out too much because of its height. If you're not sure, just ask them to trim it down as much as possible, and then take it with you when you shop for a wallet. Mine fit nicely in the wallet I already had.

[mendezbp]

Anyone know of internal modifications are allowed by San Joaquin county for ccw weapons?

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[209Infidel]

Anyone know of internal modifications are allowed by San Joaquin county for ccw weapons?

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Not sure if theirs any official regulations, but personally don't think it a good idea because if you have to justify a shooting in court, every decision you make will be scrutinized. Including why you modified your weapon. In ccw class they said sights are OK, but nothing inside. But don't know if the county or state has any rules against.

[scadvice]

Not sure if theirs any official regulations, but personally don't think it a good idea because if you have to justify a shooting in court, every decision you make will be scrutinized. Including why you modified your weapon. In ccw class they said sights are OK, but nothing inside. But don't know if the county or state has any rules against.

I personally think it is a mistake to go crazy modifying the inside of a CCW it most likely would come up in court even though in my thinking it has no place as an argument for non justification but a form of slandering the shooter's character.

I have done nothing to my carry... inside.

I looked for a time on that very subject and did not run across any "laws or rules" myself. However, that doesn't mean there are not any.

[Mayor McRifle]

I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.

[Nor*Cal]

I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.

I completely agree. Well said.

[92Fatboy]

I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.

I completely agree, and have done the same myself. Long story short, I have not been able to find a single case that has actually gone through the court system where somebody has been "challenged" regarding internal modifications like a trigger kit in their CCW. I understand why someone might be concerned that it could be used against them in court, but I'd rather be alive to have that fight in court personally...

[mendezbp]

I have the apex carry/duty trigger in mine. It's not super light, but not 7-8lbs either. I think around 4.5-5lbs.

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[209Infidel]

I installed short reset triggers on two of my CCW guns, and an Apex Duty/Carry trigger kit on the third. All three were inspected by my CCW training instructor. All three are now better carry guns, and with better triggers, I am far less likely to pull shots and hit innocent bystanders in the unlikely event that I ever need to use them in self-defense. None of these modifications would be related in any way to the question of whether I used deadly force under a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. While these internal modifications could conceivably be relevant in a case involving a negligent discharge, they are simply irrelevant to a situation involving intentional use of deadly force in self-defense.

Good point. I guess as long as you don't have a negligent discharge or shoot an unintended target then you should be ok.

[erh1960]

San Joaquin CCW Starting Month 14

Interview & Livescan - 11/16/2015
Investigator call to update - 10/15/2016
On Sheriff's desk - 10/31/2016
Still waiting, this week starts month 14 and 6 weeks on sheriff's desk.

Was told to expect 12 months, really expected sheriff to finish a few weeks ago.
They tell me, he's out of the office a lot lately and they are backed up.

[scadvice]

Don't know what to tell you other than with even minor questions the Sheriff may send it back to the investigators to answer... which can slow you down on the approval process. Call Rinda Webber or Kaitlin Pearson, both are nice people.

[capt scuzzy]

Interview & Livescan - 11/16/2015
Investigator call to update - 10/15/2016
On Sheriff's desk - 10/31/2016
Still waiting, this week starts month 14 and 6 weeks on sheriff's desk.

Was told to expect 12 months, really expected sheriff to finish a few weeks ago.
They tell me, he's out of the office a lot lately and they are backed up.

I was told the other day he was back logged. I am coming up on a year in a couple weeks. Got the call from the investigator on 10/31

[uly609]

Initial interview 9/14/15
Got "the call" 9/6/16
Interview with Sheriff 10/25/16
Approval email 11/15/16
2 yr. Permit in hand 12/14/16

Total process took 1 year and 3 months. I could have taken my training class sooner but I didn't want to risk anything given the uncertainty after meeting with the sheriff. Just relieved that I got approved and it's over with.

[Kokanee]

Good for you!

[209Infidel]

1/4/2016 - Application/interview/livescan

10/1/2016 - took 1 day 16hr. ccw class @ Best Handgun Training in Lincoln. Highly recommended, Mike Davis was a great instructor.

11/14/2016 - Got "the call". Investigator just asked if anything has changed in the last year. Said app. going to sheriff's desk today and should get a call in a few weeks if approved.

12/7/2016 - got approval call and email

**Update**
Picked up my 2yr. permit Tuesday 12/13/16. Not a word said about me taking my ccw class 2-1/2 months early ( for those who are considering taking the class beforehand). They told me to start the renewal process 3 months before expiration.

11 months from interview to approval