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You're not doing it right.
The ATI number should be in the following sequence: 1 LETTER; 3 NUMBERS; 3 LETTERS and 3 NUMBERS.Retired Mil & former Copper
Semper Fi!
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Renewals of CCW
I posted this in the other "long" thread but thought it should get posted here (maybe I'll copy it into one of my earlier posts so it's not buried so far).
When I completed my paperwork for my new CCW yesterday I spoke to someone renewing his as we waited in the SSD lobby. Two others who came in also were for renewals (a young well-dressed lady and a young guy with baggy jeans and loose athletic shoes). He's a bail bondsman and FFL and I think he said he's had his CCW 6 or 8 years. He told me that we're not allowed to renew our CCW earlier than two weeks before it expires.
I asked Amber about this and she said the two week window is used to synchronize with the DOJ, though I didn't ask what that meant. She said that they were probably going to go to an appointment-only system for completing paperwork for new and renewal CCWs so that the lengthy wait times could be avoided.
Some form needs to be completed for renewal. The guy I spoke with had not filled his paperwork yet and filled it out while I was there. It looked to be two full pages. At least one other person renewing had their paperwork filled out already. Probably would be a good idea to get this form from Amber before going in for renewing. Maybe she would e-mail it to you, if asked.Comment
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So I have an appointment to turn in my app coming up, my history is pretty clean except for one incident when I was 15 over a decade ago, I was picked up for curfew and vandalism with damages under $1000. The supervisor who gave me this info in records said there was no arrest, no detention or court, just 6 months informal probation. I remember I was picked up and taken straight home. The application says to put down any arrests. Should I include this in my app to be safe or leave it out? Do you think I will be denied on this basis ?Comment
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So I have an appointment to turn in my app coming up, my history is pretty clean except for one incident when I was 15 over a decade ago, I was picked up for curfew and vandalism with damages under $1000. The supervisor who gave me this info in records said there was no arrest, no detention or court, just 6 months informal probation. I remember I was picked up and taken straight home. The application says to put down any arrests. Should I include this in my app to be safe or leave it out? Do you think I will be denied on this basis ?
Well they know now
My opinions are my own and do not represent the position of other companies I may be involved with.Comment
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Help spread the word!
Help spread the word that Sacramento County has gone Shall Issue for CCWs! Print out some copies of the 2 page flyer below and take them in to your Sacramento area gun stores, feed stores, tractor supply places, and anywhere else you think people interested in a CCW may be.
PDF of flyer is Here:
Calguns Foundation logo/artwork used with permission.Last edited by Lone_Gunman; 11-18-2010, 10:47 PM.Comment
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Why does livescan cost so much?
$122??
About a 18 months ago I paid for livescan for three people (mom,sister, me) and it was $160 total. Have prices really gone up so much?sigpic PM 4 Front Sight diamond
"If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?"
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I had to be livescanned recently and the cost was something like $20 or so from a private livescan service but the .gov agency that I was being printed for probably paid the remainder.Comment
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When I went in for LiveScan last month a lady in front of me paid something like $60-$65. I asked the clerk (?) why I had to pay so much more and he said a more extensive check is done for CCWs. He said a lot of other LiveScans are done for registered nurses, etc. Amber also told me later that she has to get a certified copy of the DOJ clearance before mailing me a letter; I don't know if that's done for the other uses. I think it's just a rip-off by the state. I think it should be $20 unless they can find some real dirt on me.
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Livescan vendors can essentially charge what they want for the "rolling fee"- some vendors are listed by DOJ here: http://ag.ca.gov/fingerprints/publications/contact.php
In addition, there are other fees that are mandated by DOJ and FBI depending on what you want the livescan for.
Last year when I had my PC832 livescan done it was $121 (fortunately paid for by my agency).Slow justice is no justice.
I was shooting a Glock when shooting a Glock wasn't cool.Comment
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There are certain fees for LiveScan that are set that are MUCH lower than what we pay... However, a "Peace Officer - Firearms" background and CCW License background has to be much more thorough. The LiveScan for an EMT or Paramedic is much lower... The DOJ fee is $32 and the FBI fee is $19 to process their background checks. Throw in a rolling fee of (say) $12 and you're at: $63. When they do those backgrounds, they just look for certain specific offenses, and MOST of them only count against you if you've committed them within the past 5 years. It's possible to be legal to work as an EMT or a Paramedic and be prohibited from firearms ownership and it's possible to be OK to own/purchase a firearm and be denied certification/licensure as an EMT or Paramedic...
Best, however, to NOT have to worry about either...Comment
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AFAIK a CORI is a CORI - The EMT/EMT-P livescan is the same as any other livescan that includes CA DOJ, FBI, and subsequent arrest. That is, it shows the same information (arrests, convictions, military convictions, etc.) including juvenile convictions. The only thing SCSO might be getting additionally for an increased fee is maybe a CAIC check, and whatever the certified letter fee cost from DOJ is (EMT/EMT-P's don't require an actual certified letter from DOJ).
I do know that being a livescan operator is a profit center for the operator. The livescan for a CCW could be done anywhere, not just at the Sheriff's Office (EMT/EMT-P's can be done anywhere in the state). The reason that SCSO mandates that you must go to them for the livescan? Money maker for the SCSO, plain and simple.Slow justice is no justice.
I was shooting a Glock when shooting a Glock wasn't cool.Comment
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Can you list on your application, a firearm that is listed on a different CCW??
I have a family members' (in law enforcement) compact 40 that I love to use but it is not registered to myself and in previous post's, it was mentioned that the gun didn't need to be registered to yourself. I have my own but this would be #3 on my app
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I believe that would be okay.
Although I listed my 3 weapons on my application, I later learned that Amber told others that they could leave that section blank on the application and that you can just bring the list of weapons once you've been approved and have qualified with them at the range. At this point in the process, you've already been approved, passed LiveScan, etc. and there was never any questions asked if the guns listed on my application or range qualification certificate were owned by me.
Best to send Amber an e-mail to get the official word. I've heard folks from some counties who have said that the gun must be owned by you to be on your CCW.Comment
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