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[Gavelams]

Hello all. Here to vent my frustration...


-Submitted application 10/3/22
-Initial livescan done 10/12/22
CA completed 10/12/2022
FBI completed 10/12/2022
Firearms completed 10/14/2022
-Received email from OCSD on 10/14/2022 stating:
"Good morning, our records show you were live scanned on 10/12/22. The live scan was input in error. You must be live scanned using a new ATI number and not the original number. The results show that you were printed as a CCW Custodial officer and we cannot accept it this way. Please look over the live scan and ensure the technician enters the data as it is listed on the from. We have attached the form for your review."
With screenshot showing APP TYPE: Custodial Officer CCW
-Called place I got livescanned on 10/14/2022 and told them about the error. He submitted a new application or whatnot and gave me new ATI number. It's been 5 days an I continue to get "Applicant Transaction Not Found.
Please Contact the Agency that Requested the Background Check."

Have any of you gone through this before?

[jdr714]

Hello all. Here to vent my frustration...


-Submitted application 10/3/22
-Initial livescan done 10/12/22
CA completed 10/12/2022
FBI completed 10/12/2022
Firearms completed 10/14/2022
-Received email from OCSD on 10/14/2022 stating:
"Good morning, our records show you were live scanned on 10/12/22. The live scan was input in error. You must be live scanned using a new ATI number and not the original number. The results show that you were printed as a CCW Custodial officer and we cannot accept it this way. Please look over the live scan and ensure the technician enters the data as it is listed on the from. We have attached the form for your review."
With screenshot showing APP TYPE: Custodial Officer CCW
-Called place I got livescanned on 10/14/2022 and told them about the error. He submitted a new application or whatnot and gave me new ATI number. It's been 5 days an I continue to get "Applicant Transaction Not Found.
Please Contact the Agency that Requested the Background Check."

Have any of you gone through this before?

[Dvrjon]

Permanent.

[PewPewPew]

Sorry guys. Failed to mention that there was a mag block in the magazine. Does the law mention anything about it having the block to be permanent or is that a grey area?

[Dvrjon]

Hello, guys! I wasn't sure where to post or ask this but:

Is it legal to carry an p365 xmacro with its 17rd mag in CA?

I understand it’s legal to own and use larger capacity magazines if they were purchased during freedom week. However, the xmacro came out only just a few months ago and I’m not quite sure if that ruling goes for it. I just purchased an off roster xmacro and am in the process of getting my ccw permit. This question was raised by a couple buddies of mine and now I’m not quite so confident if I can even legally CCW the xmacro now.

Thanks in advance, guys!

You can carry and use the Xmacro with magazines blocked to <10 rounds. You cannot use the 17 round magazines in CA because they were potentially illegally imported and certainly illegally received by you.

It is still illegal to possess and use LCMs in CA, however, enforcement of those provisions is enjoined pending litigation results.

The prohibitions on importing or receiving LCMs are not enjoined and you can be prosecuted under those provisions. Since the Xmacro didn’t exist prior to Freedom Week, you could not have legally imported or received the mags during that time. You would only have been able to import and receive them after Freedom Week leaving you without a defense. Because of this, I would recommend you not use the LCMs until you have them blocked.

[rwcole88]

Yeah. You're right ;_;. I'm coming to terms with reality :'). At least I have a really cool xmacro to shoot at the range until something changes so that I can add them onto the permit.

[PewPewPew]

Yeah. You're right ;_;. I'm coming to terms with reality :'). At least I have a really cool xmacro to shoot at the range until something changes so that I can add them onto the permit.

[9Cal_OC]

Can’t do it since it wasn’t bought during freedom week and didn’t yet exist, similar to the Hellcat.

Unless you’re exempt, you wouldn’t be able to own those magazines unless you blocked them. I personally wouldn’t carry them.

[PewPewPew]

Hello, guys! I wasn't sure where to post or ask this but:

Is it legal to carry an p365 xmacro with its 17rd mag in CA?

I understand it’s legal to own and use larger capacity magazines if they were purchased during freedom week. However, the xmacro came out only just a few months ago and I’m not quite sure if that ruling goes for it. I just purchased an off roster xmacro and am in the process of getting my ccw permit. This question was raised by a couple buddies of mine and now I’m not quite so confident if I can even legally CCW the xmacro now.

Thanks in advance, guys!

[paula6989]

Orange

6/25/22: Applied Online
10/3/22: Uploaded updated utility bill and marriage license per their email request
10/5/22: Interview
10/7/22: Livescan done
10/8/22: FBI and DOJ completed
10/10/22: Firearms completed
10/16/22: 8 hour course completed
10/18/22: Uploaded qualification certificate and received approval email. Called and made payment.

I realize it could have been faster had I done things before the interview but time got the best of me these past few months.


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[Chewy65]

Thanks all for thoughts on CCW qualification courses and I now plan on taking in additional training classes. I may get some in even before doing the CCW qualifier.

[socal m1 shooter]

Artemis in Lake Forest has a 16 hour CCW class and also has vast other training both in a simulator and live fire.

They do, and the training can be good; as with anything, you get what you pay for. Two people in the VirTra300 is $180/hour, the same cost for one person to do an hour of virtual reality training.

You can get a sense of what they offer on the VirTra300 from the videos below. Trainers are typically retired LEOs or ex-military or both. Our experience has been positive; we thought they did a great job, will be returning.

If you want to save a bit they usually have a black Friday sale, half off the regular price.





Far as I know, they do not use the shocker anymore when you get "hit" with returned fire from the bad guys in the VirTra300, but they did when these videos were shot. I suppose you could request it if you wanted it.

Their YouTube channel is pretty active, you can get a sense of their offerings by browsing their videos.

[boomer8800]

I used http://eliteccwtraining.comthey have both in class and online. And they have their own in house range now

[Ocdlaw]

Artemis in Lake Forest has a 16 hour CCW class and also has vast other training both in a simulator and live fire.

[riderr]

I need to get a CCW class and am looking for one that actually teaches something and doesn't just punch your qualification card. On Target in Laguna Hills might fill the bill though I question its requirement that you bring cleaning supplies so that the instructor can observe you cleaing your primary handgun, and it will be very difficult to fit my schedule to theirs. Can anyone recommend other places that actually teach defense shooting along with their CCW course? Preferably in South County, but I will travel to a worthwhile class.

The primary goal of the CCW class is really to get your through the required curriculum and quals. It would be unreasonable to expect any serious instructions outside of the curriculum scope. You can be better off taking the narrow-tailored classes in addition to your CCW class. Alternatively, some of the instructors run 16 hour CCW class, where they have more time to address various concerns. Usually, the 16 hour class cost more than 8 hour class