Los Angeles

[Unbekannt]

It is hard to believe anyone young enough and with the ability to leave has not left California already, let alone Los Angeles. Who would live in that Mexician hell hole?

[mej16489]

So, who here has applied since AV took office and got denied???

Me.

Originally issued under Block.
Renewed under Baca.
Denied renewal under McDonnell; insufficient good cause.
Denied application under Villanueva; insufficient good cause.

[Paladin]

Me.

Originally issued under Block.
Renewed under Baca.
Denied renewal under McDonnell; insufficient good cause.
Denied application under Villanueva; insufficient good cause.

Really? When did you apply?

What was your GC like (but not so much detail so as to ID you)? Did they say anything re. a change in GC with AV?

Did you get an interview? If so, how'd it go?

When did you get denied?

Are you going to appeal your denial?

[mej16489]

Really? When did you apply?

What was your GC like (but not so much detail so as to ID you)? Did they say anything re. a change in GC with AV?

Did you get an interview? If so, how'd it go?

When did you get denied?

Are you going to appeal your denial?

There is no GC reveal for an LA County licensee which wouldn't narrow the field so far as to lose anonymity. Denial was boilerplate insufficient good cause.

Early December '18 probably before the publication of his 'revised' process.
No interview, the only interview I ever had was my first renewal with Baca as Sheriff.
The denial came by mail around the 10th of this month.
No plans to appeal.

[gobler]

West Covina now has 5 pro 2A council members and is replacing the City Manager for one who is also pro 2A. Our CM is responsible for the hire/fire of the CoP. Our council already passed a vote to have our CoP issue CCWs with SD as GC. When the new CM directs our CoP to issue and if he does not, he will bereplaced with a new CoP who is pro 2A.

It's taken a few years but we may be the first city in L.A. county to issue permits to residents useing SD as GC.

[Paladin]

West Covina now has 5 pro 2A council members and is replacing the City Manager for one who is also pro 2A. Our CM is responsible for the hire/fire of the CoP. Our council already passed a vote to have our CoP issue CCWs with SD as GC. When the new CM directs our CoP to issue and if he does not, he will bereplaced with a new CoP who is pro 2A.

It's taken a few years but we may be the first city in L.A. county to issue permits to residents useing SD as GC.

Sounds GREAT!!! I know you guys have been fighting for this for YEARS. I wish you all the best and eagerly look forward to updates/good news.



Be sure to check out the thread I made (in another CGN forum, based on my post #912 above) to help LA County CGNers organize at their city level to do what you guys are doing: pushing your city councils to push their mayors/CM to push their CoPs to readily issue CCWs, ideally with SD = GC.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1507548

[Aragorn]

Glendora Concealed Carry

West Covina now has 5 pro 2A council members and is replacing the City Manager for one who is also pro 2A. Our CM is responsible for the hire/fire of the CoP. Our council already passed a vote to have our CoP issue CCWs with SD as GC. When the new CM directs our CoP to issue and if he does not, he will bereplaced with a new CoP who is pro 2A.

It's taken a few years but we may be the first city in L.A. county to issue permits to residents useing SD as GC.

[glbtrottr]

How did the meeting go on the 12th?

[Paladin]

HELP WANTED

LA Co is by far our most populous county -- 3x the pop of Orange or SD Co. Thus, we should have more people watching this thread than any other.

AV campaigned on issuing more CCWs than McDonnell. My guess is he's using McDonnell's stated Good Cause policy, but unlike McDonnell, will actually issue to people who meet that standard.

If you are, or you know of, someone who is a small business owner (franchise restaurant owner, small grocery store, jeweler, etc who makes cash deposits), real estate agent, property manager who collects rents, preacher making donation deposits, etc. (Good Cause) and they're law-abiding (Good Moral Character), and they want a CCW, they should apply to find out if they pass the GC hurdle.

Here's some advice that could help them with the application process:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1482924

At worst, they'll get denied and be out $10.00 (see p.3 at: http://lasd.org/pdfjs/CCW_Licensing_Policy_Jan_2019.pdf)

At best, they'll get approved and have to get a Livescan done and take training to get a CCW issued. Either way, have them post their experience after they're through with the process.

[gobler]

Well, here in West Covina we've had a weird event happen. We just had our city manager and two council members resign over a proposal on building a hotel in an area that really can't support one. They we're pissed that monies were "heavily greasing the wheels" and will put WC in even greater debt.

So, I wonder if LASD will use permanent disabilities as good cause??

[Paladin]

Well, here in West Covina we've had a weird event happen. We just had our city manager and two council members resign over a proposal on building a hotel in an area that really can't support one. They we're pissed that monies were "heavily greasing the wheels" and will put WC in even greater debt.

Your brand new CM is gone?!!

Sorry to hear about the distracting drama....

So, I wonder if LASD will use permanent disabilities as good cause??

We honestly don't know at this point. Being unable to "fight or flight" definitely makes you particularly vulnerable and maybe even a target. Of course, you'll need a MD/DO to sign off on you having such a disability.

If I were you I'd go thru both the LASD materials (http://lasd.org/ccw_info.html), and my CoCoCo advice (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924) and try to work up my best GC reasons and apply. You may get issued and it will only cost you, if I'm reading their materials right, $10 if you get denied.

If you don't have $10 to waste to find out if you can get issued, that a bigger problem than not having a CCW....

If you do apply, please PM me with your details as you go through the process. ALL correspondence kept in STRICT confidence and not posted/shared without your PRIOR approval.

I'd say give it a shot. Even if we win at SCOTUS in a year, CA9 will drag their heels, they'll give Sacto/IAs plenty of time to ramp up and comply -- could be another 2 or 3 years....

Why wait???

[gobler]

Your brand new CM is gone?!!



Sorry to hear about the distracting drama....



We honestly don't know at this point. Being unable to "fight or flight" definitely makes you particularly vulnerable and maybe even a target. Of course, you'll need a MD/DO to sign off on you having such a disability.



If I were you I'd go thru both the LASD materials (http://lasd.org/ccw_info.html), and my CoCoCo advice (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924) and try to work up my best GC reasons and apply. You may get issued and it will only cost you, if I'm reading their materials right, $10 if you get denied.



If you don't have $10 to waste to find out if you can get issued, that a bigger problem than not having a CCW....



If you do apply, please PM me with your details as you go through the process. ALL correspondence kept in STRICT confidence and not posted/shared without your PRIOR approval.



I'd say give it a shot. Even if we win at SCOTUS in a year, CA9 will drag their heels, they'll give Sacto/IAs plenty of time to ramp up and comply -- could be another 2 or 3 years....



Why wait???

Going to call for CCW package. I'll post updates here as things develop.

[kflakes]

Your brand new CM is gone?!!

Sorry to hear about the distracting drama....

We honestly don't know at this point. Being unable to "fight or flight" definitely makes you particularly vulnerable and maybe even a target. Of course, you'll need a MD/DO to sign off on you having such a disability.

If I were you I'd go thru both the LASD materials (http://lasd.org/ccw_info.html), and my CoCoCo advice (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924) and try to work up my best GC reasons and apply. You may get issued and it will only cost you, if I'm reading their materials right, $10 if you get denied.

If you don't have $10 to waste to find out if you can get issued, that a bigger problem than not having a CCW....

If you do apply, please PM me with your details as you go through the process. ALL correspondence kept in STRICT confidence and not posted/shared without your PRIOR approval.

I'd say give it a shot. Even if we win at SCOTUS in a year, CA9 will drag their heels, they'll give Sacto/IAs plenty of time to ramp up and comply -- could be another 2 or 3 years....

Why wait???

I am planning to give it another try pretty soon, just need to find time for it. Things have been incredibly hectic with work.

If you do have the time, I would actually appreciate all the critiques on my good cause statement to help prepare the best application possible. I think a fresh set of eyes will be very helpful. I do not mind sharing my good cause statement with you, Paladin. Since you are experienced on this, if you know the content of my good cause statement and then we find out the result, both of us will have a better idea of what works and what does not work, and that in turn may help other potential applicants. I will PM you with my email address shortly.

[Big Jake]

I am planning to give it another try pretty soon, just need to find time for it. Things have been incredibly hectic with work.

If you do have the time, I would actually appreciate all the critiques on my good cause statement to help prepare the best application possible. I think a fresh set of eyes will be very helpful. I do not mind sharing my good cause statement with you, Paladin. Since you are experienced on this, if you know the content of my good cause statement and then we find out the result, both of us will have a better idea of what works and what does not work, and that in turn may help other potential applicants. I will PM you with my email address shortly.

If you want a CCW than move. LA County is a grade A S+@# hole anyway. Please don't say it can't be done. If you want a CCW badly enough than make it happen. If not, go without. Plain and simple. carry on!

[kflakes]

Pretty sure I didn't say it can't be done. That's why I am going to try again. Plain and simple.