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Calibers/weapon models may only be changed during your renewal period.
I asked if Standard Capacity Mags were ok to use because of freedom week and the Deputy said they would ask their Supervisor would let me know.
There are about 3 LA County ccw trainers available right now and I went with the Cheapeast I could find ($150 for one handgun, $20 for each additonal).Comment
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That's right. Think carefully when you fill out your application because you're going to be stuck with those three guns for two years.
Speaking of weapons, for LA residents, leave your guns in their original configuration. The only possible changes are sights, grips, and adding a laser / light if the gun has a rail. Other than that, leave it as it came from the factory. And personally, I don't think grip changes are a good idea because if they are slightly dimensionally different from the factory grips, they could interfere with controls such as mag release and safety, and they could interfere with holster retention. The only thing I would change on a CCW gun are the sights, to switch to night sights.
AFAIK, the answer is NO. Do not carry large capacity mags in your CCW gun in LA. Leave them at home. Anyway, if your gun is big enough for large capacity, then consider choosing a smaller gun for one of your three."Weakness is provocative."
Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024
Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.Comment
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I guess I didn't really think about the case where someone really wants an optic sight on a CCW gun. If you're someone who really must do that, ask them because it may count as a modification that's not allowed. LA sheriff is very restrictive on this.
I think they may be. Ask them if you really want to do that. Again, this is in the context of the LA sheriff. Other issuing authorities are likely to be less restrictive.
I love them! But that's just my opinion.
As we're getting nit-picking here, there's no issue about "standard" capacity mags per se. Some standard capacity mags, like for a 1911, are NOT large capacity. Other standard capacity mags, like for a Glock 17, ARE large capacity. There are mags, such as this 10-round 1911 mag, which are not standard capacity and also not large capacity. Talking about standard capacity mags doesn't mean anything.
The issue is large capacity magazines, which hold > 10 rounds. These may be standard, as for the Glock 17, or non-standard, as for example some extended 15-round 1911 mags. Either way, the issue is large capacity mags.
There's no legal definition of a standard capacity magazine. There is a legal definition of a large capacity magazine.
LA Sheriffs CCW does not allow carrying with large capacity mags.Last edited by CCWFacts; 12-18-2020, 7:01 PM."Weakness is provocative."
Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024
Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.Comment
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LASD CCWer
I (still) have a question for you:
Also can you state (or restate) roughly what your GC was like? (Use the GC numbers or colors as defined in post #31 of my CCW Application Advice thread pinned at the top of this subforum.) Having it posted near the party smilies makes it easier for readers to see what actually worked as GC.Last edited by Paladin; 01-09-2021, 5:55 AM.Comment
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Reposting a message from one of LA's approved trainers:
In 2020 amidst this shall we say eventful year, we've actually had some amazing news! The Los Angeles Sheriff's Department has announced that there will be a dramatic increase in approved CCW permits granted to LA residents.
If you can make a detailed, documented case about the specific threats you face, and you have built up a documented and strong showing of your good character, YOU SHOULD APPLY NOW. The threats you face are unique to you, and they don't have to be at the level of documented death threats or restraining orders. It can be many possible things, but the key is documenting whatever it is and explaining it in depth."Weakness is provocative."
Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024
Victoria "Tori" Rose Smith's life mattered.Comment
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Has AV put out any virtual town hall videos lately? If so, has he said anything about CCWs?Comment
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02.28.22 - Application mailed
07.13.22 - Live Scan complete
11.03.22 - Interview
01.14.23 - Proceed to training authorization
01.21.23 - Cert submitted
01.23.23 - Acknowledged receipt
03.12.23 - Call to schedule pickup
04.07.23 - Permit issuedComment
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LASD CGN CCWer #7!!!
LASD CGN CCWer #7!!!
They have a Light Red GC (business owner at risk).
My story and tips below
Be as detailed as possible in your good cause statement, but don’t embellish/exaggerate any facts. Be 100% truthful and be sure to have supporting evidence to support your written statement, because you will be asked about them during the phone interview and you will be asked to bring documentation/evidence to support your statement to the in-person interview. My good cause statement was very thick, complete with numerous exhibits. Don’t be afraid to be extensive if necessary. The more detailed, the better.
Basically, your statement should clearly show why your situation puts you in greater danger than the general population, and thus why you need to carry. In my case, I had an incident related to work that could have put my life and my family in danger that was well recorded. I attached evidence of this incident in great detail although no police report or restraining order was filed. I also carry valuable equipment for work, I routinely deposited large amounts of money at the bank prior to covid-19, and I submitted evidence why my line of work puts me in greater danger than the general population. I included evidence of published incidents of people in my line of work who have been hurt or killed.
If your good cause statement is sufficient, you will get a phone interview. Otherwise, you will get a rejection letter in the mail.
During the phone interview, you will again be asked by the deputy why you need a CCW to carry. You need to be prepared to answer this. Again, don’t exaggerate. Just state the facts. If the phone interview is successful, the deputy will invite you to have an in-person interview. I have read on this forum that other people got rejected after the phone interview and even after the in-person interview.
If you get an in-person interview, you will be asked to bring documents listed on the LASD CCW page (eg. birth certificate, proof of residency in LA County i.e. utility bills) and any additional evidence to support your good cause statement. I submitted extensive evidence in my initial application, and I brought all the evidence already submitted in the application, all the documents the deputy asked for and even more evidence to the in-person interview. I wanted to make their job easier.
It has been a really good and pleasant experience for me. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that one deputy is assigned to each application, and this deputy reviews your file from beginning to end, including conducting the interviews. The deputy who reviewed my file was a really nice person. The person who scheduled the appointment to pick up my permit was a different deputy.
I think the bottom line is this. They want a responsible person with a very good temperament to have the permit. They don’t want just anybody to have one, especially if you’re just a gun lover, an aggressive gun slinging cowboy or someone who gets easily triggered. I’m a non-confrontational person to begin with, and I try my best to stay away from bad people, bad situations or be in the wrong place. I try to do everything I can to mitigate circumstances. I did not argue that carrying a gun is my God given constitutional right and I’m entitled to a CCW. I applied because I have a genuine concern for my and my family’s safety because of my occupation, as proven by the traumatic past incident that I had. I think the deputy who interviewed me could see that.
Some observations/tips:
1) Only state truthful facts in your written statement and during the interview. If you make a statement, you’d better have evidence to support it.
2) Be detailed and submit all supporting evidence.
3) Past CCW application that was not successful is not necessarily a detriment to the current application. I have applied once during Sheriff McDonnell’s time and it was rejected right away. At that time, LA County was literally a no issue. I stated this past application in the current application and was asked about it during the phone and live interviews.
4) I had one car accident a couple of years ago. No traffic violation in the last 5 years (my last speeding ticket was 20 years ago). The accident was not used against me.
5) Be kind and respectful to the deputy if you get an interview. I think your demeanor is closely evaluated during the phone interview and in-person interview, whether or not you realize it. Make the deputy like you. Make their job easier by being prepared with honest answers and supporting evidence.
6) My phone interview was brief (around 10 minutes) and some of the questions threw me off. I thought my application was dead after the phone interview. So a phone interview is not a good predictor whether or not you will be denied or approved. You just have to wait and see if they will invite you for an in-person interview.
7)The deputy assigned to your file will go through the rest of the questions on the standard DOJ application form that had to be completed in the presence of an LEO during the in-person interview. Be prepared to answer those questions.
My timeline is lengthier than what some people posted on the forum.
From application until the check was cashed - around 4 weeks.
From check cashed to phone interview - 2 weeks.
From phone interview to in-person interview - 2 weeks.
From in-person interview to instructions to do live scan - 1 week.
From live scan to instructions to do the firearm training - almost 4 weeks.
From completion of firearm training to picking up permit - 2 weeks and a few days.
If you get the permit, the initial license fee is $56. When I picked up my permit, I was brought to a conference room to review the information to be printed on my card. I noticed there were stacks of files and checks on the table, and as I glanced, I saw that the check on the very top of the stack was for $56. That leads me to believe that there was a number of approved applicants who picked up their permits before me. That’s encouraging.
I would encourage everyone to apply. If you don’t get the permit, all you lose is $10 and time.
It was definitely a long journey for me, a total of around 4 months, but it’s worth it.Last edited by Paladin; 01-26-2021, 9:12 PM.Comment
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