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[Rpak562]

Very cool. Shield gang!

I'm too fat for that, pocket carry is most convenient for me haha.

I can def appendix carry and it is very comfortable and easy to access.....until I sit down. Then it doesn't work. Really the only IWB that is comfortable for me at all times is small of back, and that comes with some risks if you ever fall on your back, so not worth it. Maybe if I lose some weight I'll give the Enigma a go.

If you join the Enigma group on FB there are quite a few people with a few extra lbs that makes the enigma work. I would give it a go. Or I've seen this one holster on social ads called the "fat guy holster" LOL

[MajorCaliber]

I still think it's funny they actually do read our posts and I was picked out to relay the info. The deputy said they've been waiting for someone's name they recognized on here to come in for pick-up so they can clarify things for them LOL.

If they really want things clarified, I would encourage them to create an account let's call it LASD-CCW, so they can clarify things directly and answer our reasonable questions when they come up. Like the question that came up earlier today "does a ticket for driving on a suspended license count as a arrest that must be disclosed under the arrest section of the application? We have no way of knowing these things unless they tell us. Reasonable questions that come up here and their answers should then feed back to a FAQ on their web page.

Now THAT would be helpful.

[Stevo818]

Very cool. Shield gang!

I'm too fat for that, pocket carry is most convenient for me haha.

I can def appendix carry and it is very comfortable and easy to access.....until I sit down. Then it doesn't work. Really the only IWB that is comfortable for me at all times is small of back, and that comes with some risks if you ever fall on your back, so not worth it. Maybe if I lose some weight I'll give the Enigma a go.

[Immortal547]

For sure, I didn't mean to imply that LASD uses our color scale. But even if they don't literally call it "light green", they can say whether non-work/recreation related risks can be enough to get a permit, if substantiated.

Thanks for the info Rpak, and congrats again!

[seaweedsoyboy]

[seaweedsoyboy]

Delete

[LrdVaderZ]

I'm hoping that if AV REALLY straightened out the kinks in the system that created that wave of denials, that maybe the denied people would be re-approached, maybe offered opportunity to beef up their GC/etc. I appreciate that you can't beef up the denial via GMC.

[LrdVaderZ]

I think combo sounds like a better approach. That's why I am saving now ALL quotes/invoices from my freelancing, like recent one was over 5K of stuff

[meanspartan]

If you join the Enigma group on FB there are quite a few people with a few extra lbs that makes the enigma work. I would give it a go. Or I've seen this one holster on social ads called the "fat guy holster" LOL

Nice, I'll look into it.

But honestly, once you get used to pocket carry, it's so hard to do anything else. Especially with the little Glock 42 but even with the larger Shield, with pocket carry I forget the gun is even on me. Which is the ideal when it comes to comfort.

The downside is that drawing the gun is definitely a bit slower, and arguably more dangerous, than IWB draws. That danger is mitigated by making sure to use a pocket holster*, and also having the pocket the gun is in be dedicated to being just the gun's pocket. Nothing else in there but the gun and pocket holster.

*some will argue double action revolvers do not need a holster if kept in the pocket, due to their heavier trigger pulls. While that isn't unreasonable, I think it is good practice to always have a holster covering the trigger no matter what.

[Paladin]

One last thing (seriously this time haha) the deputy told me they do NOT go by a "colored" map or colors.

Well duh! I’ve been the primary person behind the map for about a decade. (I do the Intel and defining of GC, baggss does the IT, some Intel and is sounding board.)

There is no green, yellow, etc. so that map is useless.

Non sequitur

Try applying San Joaquin SO or Monterey SO using just “personal protection” and try that with LASD: the first two will accept that as sufficient GC (says so right on their CCW webpages), while LASD won’t (per AV himself). Try using employment risks with Alameda SO you’ll get approved whereas in San Mateo SO they’ll tell you to change jobs!

If you think knowing that is “useless,” ….

[Rpak562]

Well duh! I’ve been the primary person behind the map for about a decade. (I do the Intel and defining of GC, baggss does the IT, some Intel and is sounding board.)

Non sequitor.

Try applying San Joaquin SO or Monterey SO using just “personal protection” and try that with LASD: the first two will accept that as sufficient GC (says so right on their CCW webpage), while LASD (per AV himself), won’t. Try using employment risks with Alameda SO you’ll get approved whereas in San Mateo SO they’ll tell you to change jobs!

If you think knowing that is “useless,” ….

Don't shoot the messenger lol

You're the #1 person to thank on this forum for sure.

Anyways, last post/reply for real this time.

[seaweedsoyboy]

Well duh! I’ve been the primary person behind the map for about a decade. (I do the Intel and defining of GC, baggss does the IT, some Intel and is sounding board.)

Non sequitor.

Try applying San Joaquin SO or Monterey SO using just “personal protection” and try that with LASD: the first two will accept that as sufficient GC (says so right on their CCW webpage), while LASD won’t (per AV himself). Try using employment risks with Alameda SO you’ll get approved whereas in San Mateo SO they’ll tell you to change jobs!

If you think knowing that is “useless,” ….

I don’t think anyone that’s been around the block here believes that issuing agencies issue in accordance with the map. The LASD deputies may be under the impression that that is the case, so they may be mistaking our reference to the color scheme as a product defining issuing policy rather than what it is, which is an elementary categorization defined by what we interpret their policy to accept as GC

[MajorCaliber]

Unless there is a strong reason otherwise, I would definitely submit before SCOTUS renders a decision in Bruen. I think a very likely outcome is mandatory Shall Issue, but with permits still required and in CA issued by the Sheriff. Basically the same as if we had won Peruta. If that happens, the flood of applications will be biblical and the delays will be glacial. I'd want my place in line before that happens.

[Trippin41]

Another data point for those of you following along at home.

I received the "Proceed to training" email today.

[classicman213]

Post the link idiot. Dont make me look for it.

[emoji1787]

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