Seller Says Don't Release It

[halifax]

Don't recall seeing this one before. Seller and buyer did a PPT 8 days ago. The seller just called and said the buyer hasn't fully paid for the firearm yet as promised and asked me not to release it to the buyer. The seller is a regular (i.e., good) customer. What to do?

[ZirconJohn]

Call the buyer and put the ball in his court... he has two days to square it
with the seller... the outcome is on the buyer, it's his issue and not yours.

[macey109]

release it.... the seller no longer owns it. Shame on the seller for signing the dros without being paid. The ffl has no right not to release unless the dros gets rejected. This puts the ffl in a weird place and potentially brings liability to the ffl. Seller can take buyer to small claims. Do not hold a legally dros'd weapon as hostage.

[paul0660]

I go with macey. The FFL isn't responsible for the money changing, and cannot hold the gun if the backround check is successful.

[ZirconJohn]

release it.... the seller no longer owns it. Shame on the seller for signing the dros without being paid. The ffl has no right not to release unless the dros gets rejected. This puts the ffl in a weird place and potentially brings liability to the ffl. Seller can take buyer to small claims. Do not hold a legally dros'd weapon as hostage.

Good point... but isn't the seller placing pressure on the FFL... as halifax said,
"The seller is a regular (i.e., good) customer" and so the FFL wants to
do his customer in good standing right. Perhaps the FFL should otter tell the
seller to contact the buyer, clear up the sitch because in two days... he
gonna release the firearm... (?)

[BannedinBritain]

I go with macey. The FFL isn't responsible for the money changing, and cannot hold the gun if the backround check is successful.

Horse hockey...I can cancel a DROS at least up to 30 days or more after it is submitted...that's not to say I would, but I could. And for any reason I may feel it necessary. Call the parties back to the shop, everyone gets a refund, and they go their seperate ways.

[paul0660]

Horse hockey...I can cancel a DROS at least up to 30 days or more after it is submitted...that's not to say I would, but I could. And for any reason I may feel it necessary. Call the parties back to the shop, everyone gets a refund, and they go their seperate ways.

Well there ya go. Good thing you are here to set us straight.

Have fun Halifax! Hope you don't stand the gaff for the $25, and don't spend your $10 all in one place!

[ZirconJohn]

Horse hockey...I can cancel a DROS at least up to 30 days or more after it is submitted...that's not to say I would, but I could. And for any reason I may feel it necessary. Call the parties back to the shop, everyone gets a refund, and they go their seperate ways.

By George... that's BRILLIANT Watson...!

[BannedinBritain]

Halifax, I'd rather protect a good customer than aid a shady buyer. Of course, I would be having a rather pointed discussion with my regular about how this situation would never arise again ya?

[ZirconJohn]

Well Jim, whatchagonnado...?

[knucklehead]

So what would be your excuse
For the buyer? An you really own a business?

[BannedinBritain]

So what would be your excuse
For the buyer? An you really own a business?

I don't need an excuse really...the sale/transfer isn't complete until both the buyer's and my signature go on the 4473 when pick up occurs.

I don't own the business I work at, I've managed a high volume shop for some time, and what I posted is exactly how I would handle the situation if presented to me. It's both legal and ethical IMHO.

EDIT: Just as another point of view, the buyer (if he truly is thinking of skating on the rest of the money) is using me to facilitate a fraud...and I have a problem with that.

[knucklehead]

Well your such a stand up guy. So why not just say I would tell the buyer the truth. You know to be that kinda guy. It's not ethical. The only thing your there for is to do the transfer an make your 10 dollars. Not to deny someone there gun because a loyal customer has a beef with them. What would the owner of the store say? I know forsure I would raise hell if you did this to me.

[ZirconJohn]

What...???

That's ^^^ rhetorical

Ummm... you're taking this entirely TOO seriously there, ummm... knucklehead

[knucklehead]

What...???

That's ^^^ rhetorical

Ummm... you're taking this entirely TOO seriously there, ummm... knucklehead

It might be taking it to serious. But it would be okay with you if he denied your dros because a loyal customer asked. Sure ok. I'm just responding to his responces.