what do you guys think gun store employees carrying firearms?

[Capt_Communist]

What worries me about carrying in a store is the quality of employees I have seen in gun shops. There are exceptions, however being a prior Army person and one who works in the executive protection field, I get nervous when I see some of the idiots carrying loaded guns in shops.

That being said I believe in 2A and all the CCW, open carry stuff, but would be more comfortable if there were some sort of training required to make those individuals who carry proficient in the use of firearms in tight quarters.



just me 2cents

[stitchnicklas]

i prefer a gun store with armed employees!!! i makes all warm and comfy in side seeing the 2nd amendment used......crooks and thief's should be scared of the righteous i believe.

[Soldier415]

What worries me about carrying in a store is the quality of employees I have seen in gun shops. There are exceptions, however being a prior Army person and one who works in the executive protection field, I get nervous when I see some of the idiots carrying loaded guns in shops.

That being said I believe in 2A and all the CCW, open carry stuff, but would be more comfortable if there were some sort of training required to make those individuals who carry proficient in the use of firearms in tight quarters.



just me 2cents

How do you know there is not required training?

[Capt_Communist]

How do you know there is not required training?

The stores in California, as well as out of this state, it seems from what I've read and spoken with people, there is no required training for an employee to carry, per law. Brand new employee could "in theory" could start on day one and carry a gun in a shop with no training, and if the circumstances justified it, could employ that weapon. That is what scares me.

If a given store mandates training their employees, I applaud that.

[CHS]

The stores in California, as well as out of this state, it seems from what I've read and spoken with people, there is no required training for an employee to carry, per law. Brand new employee could "in theory" could start on day one and carry a gun in a shop with no training, and if the circumstances justified it, could employ that weapon. That is what scares me.

It scares me that someone is allowed to purchase a handgun with absolutely no training, carry it around their house and if the circumstances justified it, could employ that weapon.

That is what scares me.

Slippery slope, huh?

[CSACANNONEER]

The stores in California, as well as out of this state, it seems from what I've read and spoken with people, there is no required training for an employee to carry, per law. Brand new employee could "in theory" could start on day one and carry a gun in a shop with no training, and if the circumstances justified it, could employ that weapon. That is what scares me.

Yep, I'm sure that all brand new employees of gun stores have zero experience with firearms. Of course, what scares me more is that some people think that there should be more laws and regulation when it come to one being allowed to legally protect him/herself from BGs who will always carry with or without being formally trained. I guess, if you don't feel comfortable walking into a gun store with armed employees, you should not go into one. Then, "in theory" you will never be in a situation where one of them might save your life.

[Cokebottle]

The stores in California, as well as out of this state, it seems from what I've read and spoken with people, there is no required training for an employee to carry, per law.

As it should be.

Interesting screen name that you selected, having an attitude like this.
WHO is going to be providing the training? Who is going to be providing the "certificate" that one would have to have if the training is required by law?

The government.... the very entity that the 2A was written to allow us to defend ourselves against.


Yes, I agree that training is a good thing, and I agree that gun shops should ENCOURAGE (not require) all employees, and customers, to participate in as much training as is available that is appropriate for that person's individual situation(s)...
But to require it by law moves legal, loaded carry within private property into a government regulated status. Where does it end? Training required to carry within your home? Training required to purchase a gun?
Training required to purchase ammo? We already have the HSC (and some of the questions, when answered correctly are FUD).

DOJ has too much power as it is.

[kemasa]

I think that a gun shop should ensure, not encourage, employees to be properly trained since if they don't and that employee does something wrong, they could be sued for all they have and all they will ever get. It is really a civil matter, until and unless it is shown to be a problem, such as a criminal misuse of a firearm.

The same is really true with people carrying a firearm.

If you feel that the people are not qualified to handle a firearm, then go to another place.

We could talk about whether the training for ALL police is up to the standards that it should be, but that is a different, although related, issue.

[Cokebottle]

I think that a gun shop should ensure, not encourage, employees to be properly trained since if they don't and that employee does something wrong, they could be sued for all they have and all they will ever get. It is really a civil matter, until and unless it is shown to be a problem, such as a criminal misuse of a firearm.

But this is (and should be) a choice on the part of the owner.

Personally, when my boss "strongly encourages" me to do something, I pretty much consider it a good career move

[Capt. Speirs]

I think that a gun shop should ensure, not encourage, employees to be properly trained since if they don't and that employee does something wrong, they could be sued for all they have and all they will ever get. It is really a civil matter, until and unless it is shown to be a problem, such as a criminal misuse of a firearm.

The same is really true with people carrying a firearm.

If you feel that the people are not qualified to handle a firearm, then go to another place.

We could talk about whether the training for ALL police is up to the standards that it should be, but that is a different, although related, issue.

My insurance company wants to know who is trained and how they were trained.

[yzErnie]

I think that a gun shop should ensure, not encourage, employees to be properly trained since if they don't and that employee does something wrong, they could be sued for all they have and all they will ever get.

If someone comes into a store (of any kind) and the employees are LOC or CCW and an armed encounter takes place a lawsuit is going to happen anyway. Because, you know, Chewy Pendejo was a good kid, almost off parole and was just turning his life around.

Whether there is any training or not the cops are simply going to look at the situation as it occurred and determine if the employees action was justified. Having some type of training simply shows some vision of perceived profiency of the employees and employers and may help their defense.

[oddjob]

Nick's gun shop in Lodi was robbed a few years back. He was shot in the head, but survived. Its does happen. The two suspects were never caught. The police did recover one handgun in Stockton that the suspects stole. Bottom line is that it doesn't bother me at all. I'm more curious about the guns they carry and how the employees carry.

[todd2968]

I'm for a world where all employees especially gun store employees carry guns!!!

[Hogxtz]

Sometimes I go into our local gun store just for therapy when the politicians start getting me down with their anti-gun laws. Seeing all the LOC in the store is refreshing and lifts my spirits! LOL

[cannon]

I used to work in a pawn shop. We sold guns, ammo and had a ton of cash in the store. Our boss didn't carry. He had a 12 ga next to his desk. We all carried openly.

Oddly many businesses around us were held up but we never were.