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  • #16
    igs
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 941

    28055. (a) For a sale, loan, or transfer conducted pursuant to this chapter, the purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per firearm.
    (b) For temporary storage of a firearm pursuant to subdivision (f) of Section 28050, the seller, transferor, or person loaning a firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per firearm.
    (c) No other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this chapter, except for the applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to Sections 23690 and 28300 and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6 and forwarded to the Department of Justice, and the fees set forth in Section 31650.
    (d) The dealer may not charge any additional fees.
    (e) Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from charging a smaller fee.
    (Amended by Stats. 2021, Ch. 250, Sec. 14. (SB 715) Effective January 1, 2022.)
    ATF Form 4473: If a frame or receiver can only be made into a long gun (rifle or shotgun), it is still a frame or receiver, not a handgun or long gun.

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    • #17
      Gryff
      CGSSA Coordinator
      • May 2006
      • 12686

      Originally posted by nickabeans
      Shop and ontop of the ca dros and dealer transfer fee, I was charge $30 for a safe handling fee by the shop.
      Illegal. Name the shop.
      My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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      • #18
        Tere_Hanges
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2013
        • 6268

        About half of FFLs are charging extra fees on top of State mandated PPT fees calling them various things like "storage", "processing" etc... Usually $25-$30 per firearm. They wont even waive the fee if you buy a gun from them. It's nickel and dime bullchit to discourage PPTs.

        Dont go there and dont buy guns from them. I hate to bad mouth FFLs cause we need as many as we can get but extra/unreasonable fees should not be tolerated.

        I found a few FFLs that know what they are doing and dont charge bullchit fees. If I'm doing a lot of PPTs I'll buy a lower or some ammo to give them some business. I guess its good will/etiquette/karma.
        Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 03-22-2023, 5:07 PM.
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        • #19
          anonymous308
          • Feb 2015
          • 572

          Originally posted by California_Deplorable

          I found a few FFLs that know what they are doing and dont charge bullchit fees. If I'm doing a lot of PPTs I'll buy a lower or some ammo to give them some business. I guess its good will/etiquette/karma.
          I?m the same way and I imagine many others here are as well. I?ll make it a point to support their business and refer others there.

          Places like this are very near sighted.

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          • #20
            9Cal_OC
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2019
            • 6687

            Originally posted by Gryff
            Illegal. Name the shop.
            Originally posted by nickabeans
            Cobra tactical is right.
            Posted above.
            Freedom isn't free...

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            • #21
              taperxz
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2010
              • 19395

              Originally posted by California_Deplorable
              About half of FFLs are charging extra fees on top of State mandated PPT fees calling them various things like "storage", "processing" etc... Usually $25-$30 per firearm. They wont even waive the fee if you buy a gun from them. It's nickel and dime bullchit to discourage PPTs.

              Dont go there and dont buy guns from them. I hate to bad mouth FFLs cause we need as many as we can get but extra/unreasonable fees should not be tolerated.

              I found a few FFLs that know what they are doing and dont charge bullchit fees. If I'm doing a lot of PPTs I'll buy a lower or some ammo to give them some business. I guess its good will/etiquette/karma.
              I find it amusing that people like you are trying to enforce a BS law on FFL's for your gain but not for the FFL who is trying to make a living. How many letters have you written to your State Senator or Assembly person to allow for a cost of living adjustment on the $10 an FFL gets for doing your PPT?

              So, we have to raise wages for our employees but are forced to take a loss on PPT service? Don't be a socialist commie in favor of gun rights. Its a bad optic.

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              • #22
                taperxz
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2010
                • 19395

                Originally posted by Gryff
                Illegal. Name the shop.
                Show me where its illegal please?

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                • #23
                  9Cal_OC
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 6687

                  Originally posted by taperxz
                  Show me where its illegal please?
                  Originally posted by igs
                  28055. (a) For a sale, loan, or transfer conducted pursuant to this chapter, the purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per firearm.
                  (b) For temporary storage of a firearm pursuant to subdivision (f) of Section 28050, the seller, transferor, or person loaning a firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten dollars ($10) per firearm.
                  (c) No other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this chapter, except for the applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to Sections 23690 and 28300 and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6 and forwarded to the Department of Justice, and the fees set forth in Section 31650.
                  (d) The dealer may not charge any additional fees.
                  (e) Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from charging a smaller fee.
                  (Amended by Stats. 2021, Ch. 250, Sec. 14. (SB 715) Effective January 1, 2022.)
                  Y?all don?t read previous posts huh
                  Freedom isn't free...

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                  • #24
                    taperxz
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 19395

                    Originally posted by 9Cal_OC
                    Y?all don?t read previous posts huh
                    Nope, better learn accounting Its not a fee! It's a service charge disclaimer: we don't charge for that and wouldn't but what you're posting is not what you think
                    Last edited by taperxz; 03-23-2023, 12:54 PM.

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                    • #25
                      9Cal_OC
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 6687

                      Originally posted by taperxz
                      Nope, better learn accounting Its not a fee! It's a service charge disclaimer: we don't charge for that and wouldn't but what you're posting is not what you think
                      But it is law. Whether it gets enforced or not, well that?s a separate question .
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                      • #26
                        taperxz
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 19395

                        Originally posted by 9Cal_OC
                        But it is law. Whether it gets enforced or not, well that?s a separate question .
                        Nope the law says "fee" not service charge. There is a difference in accounting.

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                        • #27
                          Tere_Hanges
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 6268

                          Originally posted by taperxz
                          I find it amusing that people like you are trying to enforce a BS law on FFL's for your gain but not for the FFL who is trying to make a living.
                          1st. Your sentence has poor grammar, as a result I have no idea what you are trying to say. It reads like an incoherent rant.

                          2nd. If an FFL charges extra fees to do PPTs, it simply tells me they dont care if people go elsewhere, hence they dont need my business. They are doing just fine without me.
                          Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 03-23-2023, 3:23 PM.
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                          • #28
                            CSACANNONEER
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44093

                            Originally posted by taperxz
                            I find it amusing that people like you are trying to enforce a BS law on FFL's for your gain but not for the FFL who is trying to make a living. How many letters have you written to your State Senator or Assembly person to allow for a cost of living adjustment on the $10 an FFL gets for doing your PPT?

                            So, we have to raise wages for our employees but are forced to take a loss on PPT service? Don't be a socialist commie in favor of gun rights. Its a bad optic.
                            I find it amusing that CA FFLs were a major driving force to get the PPT law enacted. They WANTED to collect "up to $10" for every PPT. Now, they beach about it and try to victimize their customers because of what their own did to them. Yup, it was the typical short sighted FFLs who didn't push for any allowance for cost of living increases just like the Feds didn't push for any cost of living increases when they decided on a $200 tax stamp for NFA items.
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                            • #29
                              taperxz
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 19395

                              Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                              I find it amusing that CA FFLs were a major driving force to get the PPT law enacted. They WANTED to collect "up to $10" for every PPT. Now, they beach about it and try to victimize their customers because of what their own did to them. Yup, it was the typical short sighted FFLs who didn't push for any allowance for cost of living increases just like the Feds didn't push for any cost of living increases when they decided on a $200 tax stamp for NFA items.
                              That may be true but that was then and this is now. If the state allowed for a decent price where we didn't actually LOSE money on a PPT, it wouldn't be such a big deal. Its not even the $10! Its dealing with the PPT while a customer who wants to buy a gun walks because the PPTer's don't have their sheet together.

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                              • #30
                                taperxz
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 19395

                                Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                                1st. Your sentance has poor grammer, as a result I have no idea what you are trying to say. It reads like an incoherent rant.

                                2nd. If an FFL charges extra fees to do PPTs, it simply tells me they dont care if people go elsewhere, hence they dont need my business. They are doing just fine without me.
                                hahaha

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