PPT Nightmare

[johnthicc]

Just need some advice. Not sure if I'm going crazy.

I did at PPT as a seller at FFL. The buyer comes back as undetermined but it passed the 30 days. FFL wouldnt release to him. After a month, the guy starts blowing up my phone. No call received from FFL.

I was willing to pick up firearm and go to his requested FFL that will release on undetermined, but he had the firearm shipped from FFL to his requested FFL. FFL was very annoyed with him, rightfully so.

I agreed to do the DROS again at his requested FFL, but he changed date to meet up multiple times and now all of a sudden he is asking for his money back.

He's all upset that I took his "money and never completed the transfer." He's saying I did something illegal by spending money before the "finalization of sale." Its been 2 months......... It was a lot of money so I dont want to leave him hanging, but at this point I'm getting fed up. He texts me late/early morning.

Not sure if he has a case asking for a refund, especially if the firearm is still technically under my name. I just want to do everything by the book.

Any advice?

[Bunyfofu69]

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[Garv]

Tell him it is not up for discussion until the gun is back in your possession.

After that, the typical response is to give them the money back minus something if it cost you money to deal with this like travel.

Some here say 10 - 20% is fair to keep.

A couple people here have said screw them and keep the money and the returned gun.

[Garv]

.....The buyer comes back as undetermined but it passed the 30 days. FFL wouldnt release to him.

..... he had the firearm shipped from FFL to his requested FFL.

He chose poorly, he should have selected an FFL that releases on undetermined.

That is not your fault.

[johnthicc]

I chose the FFL that didnt release on undetermined. Honestly didnt know it was a thing. Now i know....

[johnthicc]

Money is spent. Guess I could sell something else to fund the return.

[Garv]

Money is spent. Guess I could sell something else to fund the return.

You can tell him when you resell the gun he will get his share.

Can he re-ship to an FFL that will release on undetermined? (IDK)

You have no hard obligation of a time frame.

I suggest telling him you will do what you consider fair and that if he keeps pushing, your definition of fair will shift in your favor.

[johnthicc]

sounds reasonable

[hermosabeach]

Next time get the buyer to sign a letter that you charge a 50% return fee if they fail dros

[Djantlive]

The gun is sold. It is his responsibility to possess it. He is being a child about it. It’s his problem

[CheapBloke]

Tell him to pound sand.

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[foxtrotuniformlima]

^ 100%


Tell him you are sorry for his situation and you will meet him at his new FFL and start the PPT. End of discussion.

[sfe187]

Nonsense . . . . . buyer can pond sand.
1. When money exchanged, sale is over.
2. FFL is just the transfer agent, nothing else.
3. He is the one who got undetermined, nothing to do with you.
4. You graciously and willing to deal with his new FFL which you do not have to, buyer should be happy but instead whining.
5. Charge what you think your time is worth if you wish to help him, otherwise block his number and let him and his new FFL deal with it. Case close.

[9Cal_OC]

Nonsense . . . . . buyer can pond sand.
1. When money exchanged, sale is over.
2. FFL is just the transfer agent, nothing else.
3. He is the one who got undetermined, nothing to do with you.
4. You graciously and willing to deal with his new FFL which you do not have to, buyer should be happy but instead whining.
5. Charge what you think your time is worth if you wish to help him, otherwise block his number and let him and his new FFL deal with it. Case close.

[snacks]

Had a similat issue not too long ago. In my opinion it's the buyer's responsibility to pass Dros. If he really wanted the firearm he would do what he can to meet the Dros requirement. Even if he had to pay extra to obtain it.

That would be my mentality. If he felt he is spending to much that's a lesson that he learns.

And Yes i am a believer that once an agreement has been made, money exchanged hands and a handshake has been made. It's understood they take responsibility of the purchase. What they decide to do afterwards is their choice (resell etc.)