Driver's License only has P.O. Box

[ugimports]

Ah I can see in other situations how that might matter more..

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I think the only stigma when purchasing a firearm is when you admit you really want a Hi-Point C9
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[Baboosh]

We have a lot of customers who have PO BOX for addresses and most of them have 2 addresses on their registration.

Not sure how they do it but it list the PO Box and then blow it list the street address where the car is kept.

[beardog308]

We have a lot of customers who have PO BOX for addresses and most of them have 2 addresses on their registration.

Not sure how they do it but it list the PO Box and then blow it list the street address where the car is kept.

You bring in a utility bill to AAA showing your PO Box mailing address and the service address and pay the $19. They print you up a amended registration with both addresses on DMV official paper.

Having to have a PO Box living in in the mountains is a major PITA, but mostly for shipping and receiving.

[Baboosh]

You bring in a utility bill to AAA showing your PO Box mailing address and the service address and pay the $19. They print you up a amended registration with both addresses on DMV official paper.

Having to have a PO Box living in in the mountains is a major PITA, but mostly for shipping and receiving.

There you go, nice and simple. Thanks for the info!

[Mssr. Eleganté]

And AAA doesn't have as many "undocumented immigrants" for customers, so the line is WAY shorter than at the DMV.

[Micheric]

What is wrong with you people? This works just fine and only cost you one time.

There's probably a lot wrong with us but my concern with getting a CA ID with the address is that when they send it to me, they may send it to the street address and I will never get it. But I suppose, they could list the street address but send to a po box - so I will have to check this out.

Additionally, one random DMV person told me that I couldn't have both but Sully has both so I am sure it can be done.

In any event, I picked up my ccw today and it has my street address so I would think most FFLs would take that as a form of ID for the DOJ. Someone else mentioned that in this chain - is that correct?

[kemasa]

While a CA ID with your actual address works for some things, it is not acceptable proof of residency for handguns, so you would still need another document.

A CCW is another document and is a government document, so it works for the Federal requirement and for proof of residency for handguns.

[sully007]

While a CA ID with your actual address works for some things, it is not acceptable proof of residency for handguns, so you would still need another document.

A CCW is another document and is a government document, so it works for the Federal requirement and for proof of residency for handguns.

Not true. I tried to use my CCW from Utah and the FFL would not take it.

[ke6guj]

Not true. I tried to use my CCW from Utah and the FFL would not take it.

that is just an FFL that has that policy.

a UT CCW is a gov-issued document that has your name and current address on it, so it meets federal Proof of Identity requirements.

it is also a state-issued license that has your name, address, and a stated period of validity, therefore it meets CA's Proof of Residency requirements as stated in the PC and CCR.

The following definitions and requirements apply to documents intended to serve as evidence of residency for the acquisition of a handgun pursuant to Penal Code section 26845:

d. “Other evidence of residency as permitted by the Department of Justice” means either of the following:
1. A current, government-issued (city, county, special district, state, or federal) license, permit, or registration, other than a California Driver License or California Identification Card, that has a specified expiration date or period of validity. The license, permit, or registration must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
A. The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
B. The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

nothing in the PC or CCR appears to limit "state" to the state of CA. I would guess that some FFLs would accept an out-of-state non-resident CCW and others wouldn't.

[sully007]

that is just an FFL that has that policy.

a UT CCW is a gov-issued document that has your name and current address on it, so it meets federal Proof of Identity requirements.

it is also a state-issued license that has your name, address, and a stated period of validity, therefore it meets CA's Proof of Residency requirements as stated in the PC and CCR.

A current, government-issued (city, county, special district, state, or federal) license, permit, or registration, other than a California Driver License or California Identification Card, that has a specified expiration date or period of validity. The license, permit, or registration must bear the individual's name and either of the following:
A. The individual's current residential address as declared on the DROS form.
B. The individual's address as it appears on his or her California Driver License or California Identification Card, or change of address attachment thereto.

nothing in the PC or CCR appears to limit "state" to the state of CA. I would guess that some FFLs would accept an out-of-state non-resident CCW and others wouldn't.

Tried it at three different FFL's each of them would not take it.

[kemasa]

This was actually a change of policy by the PO (not UPS).

I've been sending things via UPS/FedEx to my PO using their street address for several years now but, if you use the PO's address, you still have to list a box number.

I guess you could call your Box # an Apt # instead and get away w/it. Might do that the next time around.

That really does not help as that is not your residence address.

[ke6guj]

The FFL does not know that. It's a street address that you can put on the DROS form.

are you really suggesting that a person list the post office's address as his physical residence address location on the 4473? can you say "perjury"?

[kemasa]

The FFL does not know that. It's a street address that you can put on the DROS form.

I guess penalty of perjury does not mean much to you, plus for handguns you would still need a proof of residency with that address.

I suspect it would not be hard for them to catch that, so you would have CA charges, as well as Federal charges for the 4473.

Not real smart if you ask me, but then again perhaps you just want the free room and board, as well as all the sex that you don't want.

Oh, it just gets better since I just noticed your signature:

Retired LEO. Life Member - NRA & CRPA. Member of the State Bar of CA and the District of Columbia Bar.

So as a retired LEO and a member of the State Bar of CA, you are suggesting to people to commit perjury? Really? Do you think that the Bar would just ignore such things?

[eltee]

This was actually a change of policy by the PO (not UPS).

I've been sending things via UPS/FedEx to my PO using their street address for several years now but, if you use the PO's address, you still have to list a box number.

I guess you could call your Box # an Apt # instead and get away w/it. Might do that the next time around.

My post actually shows USPS = United States Postal Service.

[Darto]

I had same problem, when buying handgun.
The 'printout' form above (INF70) cannot have 2 address printed on it, only one.

Therefore the procedure is this, go to the DMV and change both address (residence and mail) to your physical address. While still in the DMV get the printout INF70, it will now have the physical address printed on it, and this printout, when accompanied by a current CDL, is good for handguns or long guns.

Then wait till the DROS is over and you have the gun in your possession.

Only then, go online and do an address change making your mail address your p.o. box and your residence address your physical address. That way all future mail from the DMV will go to your p.o. box. The post office will NOT forward your mail from the DMV. Letters from the DMV are always marked DO NOT FORWARD.

Meanwhile the printout is good for 5 years! Does not matter your DL will have only a p.o. box on it, just save the 'printout' and for 5 years you are covered for residence proof. (you still need one other for handgun, i.e. a utility bill-these bills always list both address mailing and residence).

Used to be that a printout could list both address, now it is limited to one, which is why you must do this song and dance.

Note: when getting the printout, you have the option for a printout good for 3 years or good for 5 years. I see no reason to choose 3 year.
For 5 years you do NOT have to do this procedure again when buying another handgun. Just save your printout and use that and your CDL (which has a p.o. box address on it).

Here is what a request sheet for the INF70 looks like. Can be printed out and taken it with you to DMV to save time.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/3d039f6c-a66c-4810-ae80-ab42d6052da1/inf70.pdf?MOD=AJPERES