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[retired please move if deemed too hot a topic...I tried to post it in our LE sub forum...]
Will be interesting to read the other thread when this info hits it...
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[retired please move if deemed too hot a topic...I tried to post it in our LE sub forum...]
Will be interesting to read the other thread when this info hits it...
"Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
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I received a email about this from the Police Magazine. I don't know th ewhole circumstances of this incident, but I saw a lot of hating toward the Pima County SWAT team for killing a Marine. Maybe one day, I will try to read the whole story about it. -
this is b.s.Comment
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Last edited by 1911su16b870; 06-15-2011, 9:16 AM."Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
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I instruct it if you shoot it.Comment
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I shared it here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...&postcount=918Originally posted by five.five-sixwell, this is a shocking development
We do not know everything the DA knows...it could be this marine was part of a Drug Cartel...and did indeed point a rifle at SWAT which reacted [appropriately according to the Pima Co. DA]...that is one possibility that no one in the other thread wants to entertain or acknowledge.Originally posted by 1911su16b870"Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
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I instruct it if you shoot it.Comment
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I'll put on my raincoat in preparation for the !@#$storm about to hit.
brb.Comment
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Regardless of any facts the mob with the tar and feathers are going to claim to be right.May I always be the type of person my dog thinks I amComment
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LIAR! :POriginally posted by fullrearviewYeah, becasue LE and the DA's office get along so well together...Comment
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"Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
I instruct it if you shoot it.Comment
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The key element of the story linked in the OP is in the final paragraph... the attorney representing the decedent's family has gone MIA and isn't returning anyone's calls. Gee, I wonder why?
Subsequent to the shooting, PCSD released helmet cam video, transcripts and hundreds of pages of supporting documents, see story here. It begins to look more and more like a lawful use of lethal force. Even if the decedent was a good guy, there was a passage of minutes between knock / notice, entry, and shots fired, and he was arguably lying in wait, apparently, for the officers to enter. None of those seem to be the actions of someone roused out of a sound sleep by the door coming in and arming himself as he sprang out of bed not knowing who was there.
Combine that with evidence found at the scene which supported the reasons why they were there in the first place..... that the decedent was a person of interest in home invasions and it makes the official account all the more credible.
Let's remember also that Pima County is where Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot. Remember the massive knee jerk by Sheriff Clarence Dupnick at the time? Pima County is a bastion of politically correct thought and I have to believe that if the sheriff's SWAT guys had to do that, it wasn't because they were out head hunting.
But like others have said, I wasn't there. I can only make informed guesses based on what's out in the public view.
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Really, my experience has been that if a DA has a chance to make a name for himself by taking down a cop, they go for it. This is based on working as an LEO and actually dealing with DA's in several counties for 30 years. What are you basing your comment on?Originally posted by guns4life
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It should not be the DA's prerogative to bring a case. The case should be brought automatically so a jury can decide. The DA has the power to effectively acquit someone by not even bringing a case.
I'm open to the idea that I am completely mistaken. In fact, if I am mistaken, I'd love for you guys to educate me.Comment
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