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  • #31
    SparrowHanger
    Banned
    • Mar 2011
    • 347

    Originally posted by steadyrock
    Am I the only person who sees the hypocrisy in the video from the original post? You decry citizens killing cops (indeed, a horrible thing - should not have happened) yet the the white-haired police chief smirks at the end of the video and says he "might enjoy" doing the same thing to citizens. Where's the outrage over that?
    I think that has someting to do with the fact that his son was one of the two LEOs shot down in cold blood during the traffic stop shown in that yutube video.

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    • #32
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44094

      Wow, I didn't know this was still big. I met a few back in the late 80's. I wonder how much the ideaology has changed since then. The one's I met seemed a little more sane.
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      • #33
        steadyrock
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Aug 2007
        • 10236

        Originally posted by Falconis
        Give a grieving father a little space. It's not like a Police Chief saying it about some unknown subordinate that he barely knows.

        I didn't see the video, but the man is just verbally lashing out it seems like. I don't know of any father that wouldnt do that in that situation.

        And another one trying to deflect attention away from the 2 terrorists that cold bloodly killed a cop .....
        I'm not trying to deflect attention away from them, I addressed that situation in my first post. It shouldn't have happened - it was bad - and it sounds like the perpetrators got what they deserved. I'm talking about the hypocrisy of posters in this thread focusing on only half of the problem. He sounds bloodthirsty to me - but maybe that's just because I viewed the video.

        Question for you - if Randy Weaver went on national TV and "issued a challenge" to BATFE agents, US Marshals, and local police and said he "might enjoy" killing them - would you give him the same space? After all, he's a grieving father (and husband).
        Do not give in to evil, but proceed ever more boldly against it.

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        • #34
          Jack L
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          • Oct 2010
          • 1721

          The radical members of this type of thinking "sovereign citizen" have a delusional vision as to how society works and what it takes to keep a civilized country operating. These types couldn't even exist if it were not for all those that sacrificed to build the USA. They want their cake without the everyday sacrifices, restrictions, 'taxes' and hard work it takes to have a safe secure society with plenty of food and healthy living conditions. If politics were left to these types, the USA would crumble in short order.

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          • #35
            1911su16b870
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            • Dec 2006
            • 7654

            With the events of late and the general anti-LE spirit here...is calguns a sovereign cover forum?

            ...just say'in
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            • #36
              Gio
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 10251

              My only beef is with the Sheriff at the very end of the video as far as talking about how far can you push the 1st Amend. and also I hope they would come after me comment he made at the very end.

              Seems like a bunch of crazy people that are in this Sovereign Citizen thing. So now I am in the profile section of the SC because I am in my 30's unemployed with financial burdens, at least I am not divorced
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              • #37
                Tacit Blue
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 4134

                Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                With the events of late and the general anti-LE spirit here...is calguns a sovereign cover forum?

                ...just say'in



                Now their talking about gun confiscation, and saying how well go after them like the movie red dawn.


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                They can also find out like they did in Red Dawn. Go to every gun shop and take all their 4473 forms "
                Last edited by Tacit Blue; 05-16-2011, 10:29 PM.
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                • #38
                  fullrearview
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 9371

                  Originally posted by Tacit Blue
                  http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...70#post6408470


                  Now their talking about gun confiscation, and saying how well go after them like the movie red dawn.


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                  They can also find out like they did in Red Dawn. Go to every gun shop and take all their 4473 forms "
                  LOLZ!!! Just got back from the gym, popped Red Dawn in and clicked on this thread!
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                  • #39
                    masameet
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 4487

                    Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                    With the events of late and the general anti-LE spirit here...is calguns a sovereign cover forum?

                    ...just say'in
                    Naw. Calguns is really a Massive Complainers Forum, with a gun theme as cover.

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                    They've need to show that they can think at all;
                    Errors, like straws, upon the surface flow;
                    He who would search for pearls, must dive below." -- John Dryden

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                    • #40
                      TRICKSTER
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 12438

                      Now that I'm retired, I'm tempted to release a copy of the super secret DOJ Firearms Confiscation Plan. If I knew that I could do it without risking my multi-million dollar PERS retirement, I'd go for it.


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                      • #41
                        Tacit Blue
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 4134

                        Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                        Now that I'm retired, I'm tempted to release a copy of the super secret DOJ Firearms Confiscation Plan. If I knew that I could do it without risking my multi-million dollar PERS retirement, I'd go for it.
                        Your doing it for all the wrong reasons, dont be another Julian Assange

                        Your were supposed to uphold that Oath to secrecy, don't think you still have that confidential drivers license anymore..
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                        • #42
                          Falconis
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1688

                          Originally posted by steadyrock
                          I'm not trying to deflect attention away from them, I addressed that situation in my first post. It shouldn't have happened - it was bad - and it sounds like the perpetrators got what they deserved. I'm talking about the hypocrisy of posters in this thread focusing on only half of the problem. He sounds bloodthirsty to me - but maybe that's just because I viewed the video.

                          Question for you - if Randy Weaver went on national TV and "issued a challenge" to BATFE agents, US Marshals, and local police and said he "might enjoy" killing them - would you give him the same space? After all, he's a grieving father (and husband).
                          I think there is a huge difference and I still think your deflecting attention. But yeah, I'd give the guy space, I'd keep an eye on him, but I'd give him space.

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                          • #43
                            mlevans66
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 9516

                            Originally posted by fullrearview
                            When you look at it through a black and white lens, sure, I can see it that way... However, its not black and white.
                            Most things are. You just choose to look at things through a gray shade. The cop killer are wrong and so was that chief. Black and White.
                            The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
                            The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
                            I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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                            • #44
                              Roddd
                              Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 348

                              We had a warning for LE in our area about a soveriegn citizen who was planning on coming into different officers homes and arresting them. I can't speak for all of them, but the ones I've come across are dangerous.

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                              • #45
                                hunteran
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 575

                                Originally posted by Midian
                                capitis diminutio maxima

                                Once you see it, you can't unsee it. I think they have real balls, trying to unscrew themselves from the system. Props to 'em.

                                There's no reason these people should be demonized for standing up for individual liberty. This is an obvious hit piece so you won't try anything like this at home. Then again, people believed the already dead Bin Laden was killed on May first then thrown over the side of a boat, so they'll believe anything a three letter news agency says.
                                Are you serious? Or are you just trolling?

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