On 60 Minutes last night

[Mr.1904]

Perhaps an alternative to the news agencies finding the most wingnutty versions of this movement for public roll out (again, so you won't try anything like this at home, have your friends laugh at you, and just play guitar hero and be a good serf) would be to research the movement for yourself. Look at the funny hippie! He doesn't dress in dockers like me!

People will believe anything if they're told it often enough: Magic people in the middle east 2000 years ago. Flying Saucers. Planes that pulverize and vanish when they hit the pentagon at 500 MPH. Scary guys with beards that hate your freedoms. Fluoride in the water is good for your child's teeth. Flu shots. Microwaving your food.

Stands to reason the idea of individual liberty and divorcing yourself from the control grid should be demonized for public consumption since other erroneous claims are so easily accepted.

Just sayin'.

You're a little too involved my friend. Thinking too much or something.

[foxracer151]

we had 4 of these guys come to our prison dressed out in US marshals jackets and fake badges and attempt to break out 2 federal inmates

[center_x]

Fullrearview....on your youtube video.....im thinking hairpull takedown....possibly??? Just don't forget to glove up :-)

I've never heard of this group. Thanks for the heads up.

[G1500]

There are more, but I have to leave right now.

I think I got a contact high from watching that.

[fullrearview]

Perhaps an alternative to the news agencies finding the most wingnutty versions of this movement for public roll out (again, so you won't try anything like this at home, have your friends laugh at you, and just play guitar hero and be a good serf) would be to research the movement for yourself. Look at the funny hippie! He doesn't dress in dockers like me!

People will believe anything if they're told it often enough: Magic people in the middle east 2000 years ago. Flying Saucers. Planes that pulverize and vanish when they hit the pentagon at 500 MPH. Scary guys with beards that hate your freedoms. Fluoride in the water is good for your child's teeth. Flu shots. Microwaving your food.

Stands to reason the idea of individual liberty and divorcing yourself from the control grid should be demonized for public consumption since other erroneous claims are so easily accepted.

Just sayin'.

Hey, on the flip side, some of them really sound like a lot of freedom loving CGNers here... Not all of them are fully involved as what has been shown here, but those who are what I will say, :moderates" are not so quick to distance themselves from your friend in Berkley, you Kane and his son.

Here is a guy who sounds a lot like most here on CGN...



He sounds a lot like most sane CGNers huh... The thing is, and I feel a lot of people on here don't understand this or believe it, the constitution IS open for interpretation... Some think the 2A gives them the right to own a nuke... Others feel its a collective right, and only applies to the national guard. That's why we have the SCOTUS, and separation of powers. Does the SCOTUS get thing wrong sometimes??? Sure. Things are not perfect, but nothing ever is.

I hear people complain about "officer safety" but here we have a good example of why we are always cautious... We don't really know who we are dealing with, EVER!

[Falconis]

capitis diminutio maxima

Once you see it, you can't unsee it. I think they have real balls, trying to unscrew themselves from the system. Props to 'em.

There's no reason these people should be demonized for standing up for individual liberty. This is an obvious hit piece so you won't try anything like this at home. Then again, people believed the already dead Bin Laden was killed on May first then thrown over the side of a boat, so they'll believe anything a three letter news agency says.

How do you figure killing 2 cops in cold blood is standing up for liberty. Yeah they should be demonized and hung after their trial. Don't try to evade and minimize their actions because you believe in their whole cause or believe in it in part. Your statement above has no basis in reality.

[fullrearview]

Fullrearview....on your youtube video.....im thinking hairpull takedown....possibly??? Just don't forget to glove up :-)

I've never heard of this group. Thanks for the heads up.

No worries bro... We had a discussion on it a few months ago, but it didn't go far. I don't get into the mix that often because of where I work, but I am somewhat of a poop magnet, so I try to stay on top of stuff like this since back up is generally 15 minutes at best.

[tyrist]

capitis diminutio maxima

Once you see it, you can't unsee it. I think they have real balls, trying to unscrew themselves from the system. Props to 'em.

There's no reason these people should be demonized for standing up for individual liberty. This is an obvious hit piece so you won't try anything like this at home. Then again, people believed the already dead Bin Laden was killed on May first then thrown over the side of a boat, so they'll believe anything a three letter news agency says.

Have you actually looked at the entire basis of the movement? They believe there is some mythical bank account the government opens when they are born and leverages as debt and they can reclaim this money.

While some of their beliefs over lap with people who want liberty when you look at the totality of the movement it appears crazy.

[steadyrock]

Am I the only person who sees the hypocrisy in the video from the original post? You decry citizens killing cops (indeed, a horrible thing - should not have happened) yet the the white-haired police chief smirks at the end of the video and says he "might enjoy" doing the same thing to citizens. Where's the outrage over that?

[lavgrunt]

Well.......this thread ain't gonna last long........**SIGH**

[fullrearview]

Am I the only person who sees the hypocrisy in the video from the original post? You decry citizens killing cops (indeed, a horrible thing - should not have happened) yet the the white-haired police chief smirks at the end of the video and says he "might enjoy" doing the same thing to citizens. Where's the outrage over that?

When you look at it through a black and white lens, sure, I can see it that way... However, its not black and white.

[tyrist]

Am I the only person who sees the hypocrisy in the video from the original post? You decry citizens killing cops (indeed, a horrible thing - should not have happened) yet the the white-haired police chief smirks at the end of the video and says he "might enjoy" doing the same thing to citizens. Where's the outrage over that?

He put out a challenge to the people who murdered his son. I don't see any hypocrisy. It was not to "citizens" it was to terrorists.

[steadyrock]

When you look at it through a black and white lens, sure, I can see it that way... However, its not black and white.

Okay then, what is it? A big deal is made in the video/article about the man who says "...if I have to kill one, I won't be able to stop" - but nothing is made of the cop talking about getting a rise out of murdering citizens.

For the record - if somebody came to kill me, I'd kill them back first and I think the cop would be justified if he acted in self defense. But I don't sit around on television interviews fantasizing and telling the nation how much I'd enjoy doing it.

[Falconis]

Give a grieving father a little space. It's not like a Police Chief saying it about some unknown subordinate that he barely knows.

I didn't see the video, but the man is just verbally lashing out it seems like. I don't know of any father that wouldnt do that in that situation.

And another one trying to deflect attention away from the 2 terrorists that cold bloodly killed a cop .....

[Joewy]

We have a lot of them here in Wyoming. Most of what they want is the norm here. Of course the DL issue comes up from time to time and many of them are just plain slob's so and if you live in a town the local goverment will sooner or later try to cite them. but generally they just want to be left alone. Violence is of course against everyones laws. If that happens they should be punished.

Here is one in Wyoming

http://trib.com/news/local/casper/collection_4813f5e0-678e-11e0-a121-001cc4c002e0.html

But im not really sure who is crazier. Corrigan or the writer of the piece. She comes across like a east coast liberal but this is in heartland Wyoming.