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  • Oceanbob
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2010
    • 12720

    It has all indications of a tall tale

    Originally posted by kemasa
    The story does not include what the person was charged with. Waiting in the parking lot seems a bit strange too. So, even if everything is accurate, it is not complete.
    His Co Worker would have mentioned the charges by now. The Police simply do not 'wait in the parking lot' . For who?..did someone follow the guy out and point a finger..?..."Its him officer..!!!"..no, that would be a hearsay case.

    The police would require witnesses, and gun experts who could say the weapon was FULL AUTO.

    To make an arrest, the POLICE need PROBABLE CAUSE....not a phone call from a $9 per hour Range Clown.

    Even if the guy walked out with a BAG FULL OF HI CAP AR MAGAZINES it's not enough to arrest him. Owning or Possessing magazines of any capacity is not illegal in this State.

    The Story is total and classic third person (my uncle once knew a guy who
    was second cousin to the head of bla, bla, bla...)...story telling.

    NAME THE RANGE.......he can't.

    Name the charges he was arrested for on a hearsay phone call..?...he can't.

    Name the man who your work buddy knew.?....he can't.

    Nothing in the news..?...no

    No cry for help at Cal Guns..?...no

    jmo
    May the Bridges I burn light the way.

    Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

    Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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    • kemasa
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jun 2005
      • 10706

      They might wait in the parking lot since then the person does not have a loaded firearm in their hands. Still, it is strange.

      You don't know if the police checked out the firearm and what they found, so there could be witnesses and gun experts.

      A report from the range of someone shooting full-auto would be probable cause. I can call and report anything and the police will come out and check it out.

      We don't know what the person was charged with, so it might have nothing to do with the magazines.

      Yes, it could be a complete fairy tale, but it could also be real, with a lot of pieces missing. Who knows what could be named or told, but hasn't been. You can't make assumptions based on that, perhaps he does not want to say, rather than can't.

      The bottom line is there is lots missing, so it is hard to tell if it is real or imaginary.
      Kemasa.
      False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

      Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

      Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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      • Cokebottle
        Señor Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Originally posted by kemasa
        I can call and report anything and the police will come out and check it out.
        Speaking of which, I've got a cinderblock wall I need demolished.
        Would you mind calling the cops and telling them that you saw someone mortaring body parts into it?
        - Rich

        Originally posted by dantodd
        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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        • ankyle62
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1449

          Originally posted by Cokebottle
          No they don't.

          I have 12 AR 30 round bodies. 6 are still rebuild kits, and I converted the other 6 into 10/30 mags.
          No date code anywhere on the body, floorplate, or follower.
          I also have two XD9 16rd rebuild kits, and 8 XD9 10 rounders.
          Again, no date code on any of the components.
          Do they need to be permanently converted to 10 rounds? My AR came with Magpul PMAG that the guy put a pen inside of it to make it only hold 9 rounds. Am I good with that or can they say it can be disassembled to hold 20 rounds? I have no problem going in there and super gluing or whatever to make it permanent, but I wont bother if it's fine how it is.

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          • TheKlawMan
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 512

            Waiting for the guy to get into his car gives the LEO the right to search it incident to an arrest and vehicle impound. Also who is to say that the LEO didn't just arrive at the parking lot as the guy was headed for his car.

            Another possibility is that LE sat in the parking lot watching the guy shoot and videtaping him for evidence and to develop probable cause. Also, confronting him in the lot and away from other shooters sounds like good procedure.
            Last edited by TheKlawMan; 03-04-2011, 10:53 PM.

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            • Cokebottle
              Señor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by ankyle62
              Do they need to be permanently converted to 10 rounds? My AR came with Magpul PMAG that the guy put a pen inside of it to make it only hold 9 rounds. Am I good with that or can they say it can be disassembled to hold 20 rounds? I have no problem going in there and super gluing or whatever to make it permanent, but I wont bother if it's fine how it is.
              The law says "permanent"

              Different people are comfortable with different levels of "permanence"
              Personally, I drilled and blocked my followers using two pop-rivets. Restoration to full capacity is possible, but not without drilling, and it will leave the bodies with holes. Bill Weise has mentioned that he is comfortable with this method.

              Some are more comfortable using wooden blocks, with the floorplates epoxied in place.
              Again, restoration is possible, but pretty difficult to do without destroying parts.

              My concern about a simple pen is that it could "get sideways" and allow more than 10rds.
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • G1500
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1825

                These threads are fun.

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                • ankyle62
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1449

                  Originally posted by Cokebottle
                  The law says "permanent"

                  Different people are comfortable with different levels of "permanence"
                  Personally, I drilled and blocked my followers using two pop-rivets. Restoration to full capacity is possible, but not without drilling, and it will leave the bodies with holes. Bill Weise has mentioned that he is comfortable with this method.

                  Some are more comfortable using wooden blocks, with the floorplates epoxied in place.
                  Again, restoration is possible, but pretty difficult to do without destroying parts.

                  My concern about a simple pen is that it could "get sideways" and allow more than 10rds.
                  Thanks, I will cut the pen to allow ten rounds instead of nine and then epoxy it.

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                  • Notorious
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 4695

                    Originally posted by Cokebottle
                    Long gun intrafamilial transfer is "hand it to them and say Happy Birthday"
                    Handguns require the $19 and the OpLaw form.

                    I honestly don't know if the DOJ will accept a handgun OpLaw when the transferee is under 18.
                    DOJ can't accept the transfer anyway I thought because ALL handgun transfers have to go through a FFL and the transferree has to have a HSC. Unless there are exceptions for this intrafamily thing which exempt them from either the FFL or HSC requirement.

                    I figured the long gun transfer is probably as good as just handing it over and smiling.
                    I like guns

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                    • IrishPirate
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6390

                      Originally posted by anthonyr31
                      This is a true story. My co-worker and his buddies went to one of the local ranges a few weeks back. One of his buddies used a 30 round clip on his AR for target practice. I'm not too sure if he was shooting in spurts or not, but the range called the cops on him. The cops waited in the parking lot and arrested him on the spot. Last I heard, he was talking to his lawyer to see if he can reduce it from a felony to a misdemeanor. Moral of the story: Don't be a dumb ***, unless you want to lose your shooting rights.
                      He was arrested for manufacturing a new weapon without a license which will accept clips as well as magazines.
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                      • IrishPirate
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6390

                        Originally posted by ankyle62
                        Thanks, I will cut the pen to allow ten rounds instead of nine and then epoxy it.
                        you can shape a block of wood pretty easy too and it's much less likely to fail than a fail
                        sigpic
                        Most civilization is based on cowardice. It's so easy to civilize by teaching cowardice. You water down the standards which would lead to bravery. You restrain the will. You regulate the appetites. You fence in the horizons. You make a law for every movement. You deny the existence of chaos. You teach even the children to breathe slowly. You tame.
                        People Should Not Be Afraid Of Their Governments, Governments Should Be Afraid Of Their People

                        ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                        • Notorious
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4695

                          Originally posted by IrishPirate
                          He was arrested for manufacturing a new weapon without a license which will accept clips as well as magazines.
                          You can manufacture a weapon to take CLIPS and magazines? Wow... the last semi-modern to take a clip was a M1 Garand. I have a few Mosins and Steyrs that takes a 5 shot clip, but all my other guns take magazines.

                          His friend doesn't deserve to be arrested, he needs to get a patent and get rich!
                          I like guns

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                          • G1500
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1825

                            Pretty sweet, Use the clips when you only need 5/10 rounds and don't have time to load up a magazine.

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                            • Notorious
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4695

                              You talking about using the AR or AK stripper clips? Those are still used to load mags so the mag is still the issue?
                              I like guns

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                              • G1500
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1825

                                Im giving a hard time. I don't have anything that needs a slip and I don't have any stripper clips. Just magazines here.

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