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  • GammaRei
    Veteran Member
    • May 2007
    • 4956

    5150 Holds. . .

    I had a question that has been bugging me for a while. When a person gets placed on a 72 hour 5150 hold due to danger to self. What goes into their background. Is it a temporary thing, or are 5150 holds permanently on your record?

    - G
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    - Ronald Reagan
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    GenLee
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 2675

    Uh oh, What did you do?



    j/k I have no idea. This was just a feeble attempt at humor.
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    • #3
      BONECUTTER
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 2263

      4473
      Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes having been adjudicated incompetent to manage your own
      affairs) or have you ever been committed to a mental institution?
      For most its a disquailfer. I knew one girl who had to go to court to have hers removed so she could buy a gun. Don't know how long they stay on your record, but the form says ever so thats what I would guess.

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      • #4
        GammaRei
        Veteran Member
        • May 2007
        • 4956

        Originally posted by GenLee
        Uh oh, What did you do?



        j/k I have no idea. This was just a feeble attempt at humor.
        Lol. I see many 5150's as an EMT and was curious what would happen. . .

        - G
        A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.
        - Theodore Roosevelt

        Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
        - Ronald Reagan

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        • #5
          5150Marcelo
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2008
          • 7681

          Ummmm...

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          Originally posted by ColdSteel14;
          Spermicidal rubbers! On the other hand.. Man.. That spermicide doesn't taste very good. AT ALL!
          Originally posted by Slayer;
          Holy Lord....why would a dude know what spermicide taste like?
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          • #6
            GammaRei
            Veteran Member
            • May 2007
            • 4956

            Originally posted by 5150Marcelo
            Ummmm...

            ???

            - G
            A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.
            - Theodore Roosevelt

            Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
            - Ronald Reagan

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            • #7
              B.D.Dubloon
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 4873

              Good question. I guard the local bhu hearings for my county (to keep the nutjobs from attacking the judge) and some of the people are pretty normal so I hope not. Many of the people in there go there voluntarily and of their own initiative, so that would suck if they are screwing themselves just trying to get help.

              A lot of the people are just there to get a place to stay for a bit and some meds. They sent some homeless guy out with 40 20mg oxycontin pills and a whole bunch of methadone last time I was there, that guy probably makes more money than I do. Over 20 percent of the people who go there are back within a month, the place is a huge money pit.

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              • #8
                sac550
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 157

                Someone placed on a 5150 hold, but not committed more then the 72 hours, can purchase/poss a firearm. The box on the 4473 doesn't apply to a person placed on a 72 hours hold and released with that period. However, the facility to required to report all 5150 holds to DOJ where the person is flagged for 5 years from purchasing a firearm.

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                • #9
                  sac550
                  Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 157

                  Someone placed on a 5150 hold, but not committed more then the 72 hours, can purchase/poss a firearm per federal law.

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                  • #10
                    bluestaterebel
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 3052

                    Originally posted by sac550
                    Someone placed on a 5150 hold, but not committed more then the 72 hours, can purchase/poss a firearm per federal law.
                    didnt that happen to the virginia tech shooter?
                    Originally posted by 11Z50
                    Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

                    Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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                    • #11
                      CSDGuy
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 3763

                      The 5150 hold is a hold for evaluation purposes. If they keep you past the 72 hours, then essentially they've done a 5250, which is a care/treatment hold for up to 30 days. Those holds require that two Docs agree that it's necessary to do so. IOW: while a LEO or LCSW can put someone on a 5150, they can't do a 5250.

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                      • #12
                        bluestaterebel
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 3052

                        what is a LCSW?
                        Originally posted by 11Z50
                        Since your myopic view is in concurrence with your cognizant lifespan on this planet, obviously less than 20 years, I will grant you a dispensation.

                        Figure that out and exercise your mind.....

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                        • #13
                          CSDGuy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 3763

                          Licensed Clinical Social Worker. There are a few people that have authority to put someone on a 5150. That's one of them. There's also a VERY specific form that needs to be filled out. When I was an EMT (and later a medic), no form means no transport unless the LEO doing the form follows me and delivers the paperwork to the facility...

                          Yes, I had to know the rules for 5150 transports...
                          Last edited by CSDGuy; 05-04-2009, 4:50 PM.

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                          • #14
                            rg_1111@yahoo.com
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 5723

                            Sac550,
                            Has it right. Facility to required to report all 5150 holds to DOJ where the person is flagged for 5 years from purchasing a firearm.

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                            • #15
                              GammaRei
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 4956

                              Originally posted by CSDGuy
                              Licensed Clinical Social Worker. There are a few people that have authority to put someone on a 5150. That's one of them. There's also a VERY specific form that needs to be filled out. When I was an EMT (and later a medic), no form means no transport unless the LEO doing the form follows me and delivers the paperwork to the facility...

                              Yes, I had to know the rules for 5150 transports...
                              We get those green forms. . .

                              - G
                              A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.
                              - Theodore Roosevelt

                              Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
                              - Ronald Reagan

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