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AW Registration Guide **3/18/2021 update: Registration may re-open soon**
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Maybe the expiration had something to do with it. I would replace the expired one with your wife's DMV so both accounts have the same proof. Note in the comments that you have replaced the DMV registration with an updated one that matches the proof in your co-registrants submissions.Comment
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Data point time!
Got a single envelope from DOJ with some approval letters. Some interesting notes:
1)All of my submissions were separate. I ate $15 per gun just so a single gun would not hold up a batch.
2)The individual letters I got (in one envelope) all had a single gun on them, EXCEPT one letter had 2 guns that were submitted separately.
3)They stuffed 8 letters into one envelope so I guess that's efficient.
4)The letters covered submissions ranging from 5/16 through 6/26. So just counting the 6/26 submission, that's quite the quick turn around at only 2 weeks!
However, I still have submissions from within that same range that are still pending. Mostly stuff from manufacturers that were not in the drop down but also a few that were.Comment
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It's been reported in another thread an FOIA request produced this. Looks like registration is an abject failure (even assuming that there a a lot of open registration applications out there). Remember, they expected and budgeted for 1,500,000 weapons from 250,000 owners:
Originally posted by doggieSomeone must put an end to this endless bickering by posting the unadulterated indisputable facts and truth.Originally posted by PMACA_MFGNot checkers, not chess, its Jenga.
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FYI
I have received my approval paperwork some time back. I keep checking the cfars site periodically to see if the status changes from pending to something else ( like approved or gotcha or something). This morning system told me password expired. And the only way to set a new password, is to use the forgot password link and answer the security questions you selected when setting up your account. So make sure to write yours 2 security question responses down somewhere.Comment
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It's been reported in another thread an FOIA request produced this. Looks like registration is an abject failure (even assuming that there a a lot of open registration applications out there). Remember, they expected and budgeted for 1,500,000 weapons from 250,000 owners:
But that's only the number of "processed and approved" people and firearms, as of the day before deadline day. So that number will be substantially higher, perhaps by 2x to 5x.
Many (most?) people who submitted apps in the last 2 months are still waiting for approvals, and I would venture a guess that the overwhelming majority of registrants waited until the last month to register.
However, like you said, even if the final numbers are 5x or even 20x that number, the registration scheme was an abject failure.Last edited by CandG; 07-11-2018, 2:42 PM.Comment
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FYI
I have received my approval paperwork some time back. I keep checking the cfars site periodically to see if the status changes from pending to something else ( like approved or gotcha or something). This morning system told me password expired. And the only way to set a new password, is to use the forgot password link and answer the security questions you selected when setting up your account. So make sure to write yours 2 security question responses down somewhere.
So while you still have apps pending, I'd recommend logging in at least once a week to see if oyur password is set to expire soon. (And while you're there, check your CFARS order history to see if any guns were marked "incomplete").Comment
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Holy hell, that is REALLY low!!!
But that's only the number of "processed and approved" people and firearms, as of the day before deadline day. So that number will be substantially higher, perhaps by 2x to 5x.
Many (most?) people who submitted apps in the last 2 months are still waiting for approvals, and I would venture a guess that the overwhelming majority of registrants waited until the last month to register.
However, like you said, even if the final numbers are 5x or even 20x that number, the registration scheme was an abject failure.Comment
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The person or organization submitting that PRAR should have asked how many total applications have been received through 7/1/18. That would have given us a better idea of what the true numbers are.Comment
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So there is a few million new felons in California.Comment
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It's been reported in another thread an FOIA request produced this. Looks like registration is an abject failure (even assuming that there a a lot of open registration applications out there). Remember, they expected and budgeted for 1,500,000 weapons from 250,000 owners:
Dang, as of June 30th only 6,213 individuals and 13,159 firearms registered.
I was guessing on 30% compliance (~500,000) based upon the last two big registrations.
Now if you subtract the 6,212 Calgun members who used this thread to help them with registration that leaves only ONE person who has been successful navigating through the registration process on there own.
So .... I do remember on some of the mini AW registrations (the added 5, the SKS detachable magazine, the 50 Cal, and one or two more I forgot the details) had a low <2.5% reported compliance rate but they were not well known-advertised and easily overlooked/missed by owners of these firearms. The last big one had something ~>20% compliance. So now with Internet, Facebook, Youtube, God Google and the whole shebang we are at <1% compliance. Either something was wrong with the process, or the state counter ran out of government employee fingers and toes to count with and lost count (good excuse to hire more government workers so they can have more fingers and toes to count with), or this is a huge act of quiet civil disobedience. I am too much of a coward for the latter as I wish to keep my 2A rights and not give an excuse to the gun-grabbers.
Looks like the state will have a good revenue stream to tap and another whole big bureaucracy to buildup and appoint a czar and a bunch of loyal Democrats for patronage to check all those semi-automatics sold since 2001 and fining anyone with a AW $10,000 per firearm. Should be able to raise $15 Billion this way and put a big dent in the over bloated and jacked up price bullet train that all the Dems are using to enrich themselves with. Maybe that was the plan all along back in 2001-its a rather clever scheme I might add.Comment
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The next FOIA request should ask for names, addresses and weapon details just to see if DOJ will do it. Better one of ours does it first than not.Comment
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I suspect that the failure at getting any substantial numbers to register was due to a number of different reasons, probably broken down roughly as follows:
- 33% did not even know about Registration, or simply forgot all about it during the 13 months between the law passing and the registration opening.
- 33% were people who knew about it, but never once actually considered registering.
- 17% were people who originally planned to register, but then DOJ's draconian regulations changed their minds.
- 15% were people who tried to register, but gave up after they realized how obscenely difficult and complicated it was.
- 1% were people who tried to register, but "OMG is it June 30th already?!? AHHHH the website isn't working!"
- 0.99% successfully registered.
- 0.01% successfully submitted registrations for something they shouldn't have, that ended in rejection and/or confiscation and/or arrest
In other words, DOJ has nobody to blame but themselves; for over-complicating the process and taking away most of the benefits that would've come with doing so.Last edited by CandG; 07-11-2018, 4:12 PM.Comment
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