AW Registration Guide **3/18/2021 update: Registration may re-open soon**

[bigbully]

I wonder what percent of those firearms is actually AR15s since those were the easiest to make compliant. Also, how many are shotguns that really should never have been part of the registration.

[mshill]

I suspect that the failure at getting any substantial numbers to register was due to a number of different reasons, probably broken down roughly as follows:

• 33% did not even know about Registration, or simply forgot all about it during the 13 months between the law passing and the registration opening.

Based on my experience I would have put this number more like 70%. A vast majority of gun owners in this state don't pay any attention to what's going on around them (eg. situational awareness) let alone what is going on in the capitol.

[beanz2]

Data point time!

Got a single envelope from DOJ with some approval letters. Some interesting notes:

1)All of my submissions were separate. I ate $15 per gun just so a single gun would not hold up a batch.

2)The individual letters I got (in one envelope) all had a single gun on them, EXCEPT one letter had 2 guns that were submitted separately.

3)They stuffed 8 letters into one envelope so I guess that's efficient.

4)The letters covered submissions ranging from 5/16 through 6/26. So just counting the 6/26 submission, that's quite the quick turn around at only 2 weeks!

However, I still have submissions from within that same range that are still pending. Mostly stuff from manufacturers that were not in the drop down but also a few that were.

Snap. What a smart move. I thought about doing that, but at the end, me Mr. Tightwad prevailed and registered the guns in 4 batches.

[BagelBites]

Dang, as of June 30th only 6,213 individuals and 13,159 firearms registered.

I was guessing on 30% compliance (~500,000) based upon the last two big registrations.

Now if you subtract the 6,212 Calgun members who used this thread to help them with registration that leaves only ONE person who has been successful navigating through the registration process on there own.

lol!

[Dvrjon]

CA PEN 30900(b)(1): https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=30900.

(b) (1) Any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2016, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined in Section 30515, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be readily removed from the firearm with the use of a tool, shall register the firearm before July 1, 2018, but not before the effective date of the regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (5), with the department pursuant to those procedures that the department may establish by regulation pursuant to paragraph (5).

11 CCR 5469: https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Doc...ta=(sc.Default)

Any person who, from January 1, 2001, to December 31, 2016, inclusive, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined in Penal Code section 30515, including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be readily removed from the firearm with the use of a tool (commonly referred to as a bullet-button weapon) must register the firearm before July 1, 2018.

OAG Website: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/bullet-b...assault-weapon

REMINDER: ASSAULT WEAPON REGISTRATION ENDS AT 11: 59: 59 P.M. ON JUNE 30, 2018.
All applications for assault weapon registration must be submitted by this deadline. No applications will be accepted thereafter (see Penal Code section 30900(b)(1) and California Code of Regulations, title 11, division 5, chapter 39, section 5469).

According to the letter,

An application being processed is not considered registered.

OOOOps.

DOJ appears to have no (ZERO) legal authority to approve anything after 06/30/2018.

[CandG]

CA PEN 30900(b)(1): https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...ctionNum=30900.
11 CCR 5469: https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Doc...ta=(sc.Default)

OAG Website: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/bullet-b...assault-weapon
According to the letter,

OOOOps.

DOJ appears to have no (ZERO) legal authority to approve anything after 06/30/2018.

I've been saying from the beginning - we're at their mercy, they have no obligations to do anything. Luckily it appears they're playing nice about that so far, and I don't think the law forbids them from issuing registrations after 7/1, and also DOJ takes the position that the word of law doesn't apply to them anyways.

They also, startlingly, had no legal requirement to approve anything at all, ever. Frankly I'm shocked they didn't play that game.

[Dvrjon]

Yep, I've been saying that from the beginning - we're at their mercy. Luckily it appears they're playing nice about that so far.

[shaocaholica]

It's unrealistic to have all applications processed by the submission deadline regardless if its firearms related or not. There's no legal or otherwise precedent for that.

[Dvrjon]

It's unrealistic to have all applications processed by the submission deadline regardless if its firearms related or not. There's no legal or otherwise precedent for that.

the statute doesn’t set a submission deadline; it sets a registration deadline.

The DOJ regs affirm the registration deadline.

The DOJ letter clearly shows that submitted is not registered.

There’s a lot of precedent against government contravening statute with policy.

Expect a really quick change to the regs separating submission from registration and allowing what they’re doing.

[CandG]

The deadline is for us, it says WE must register before 7/1. There are no statutory deadlines on when DOJ must stop processing and issuing them. Obviously they understand that, as they've issued many registrations after 7/1.

[CandG]

To me, the letter pretty clearly is saying that their count does not include guns that weren't registered before 6/30 simply because they don't know how many will be registered after that date. It does not, to me, imply that no weapons will be registered after 7/1, proven by the fact that dozens of people have reported theirs being registered after 7/1.

[shaocaholica]

Ok so if you want to play the semantics game then all submissions are registrations until rejected. They said it themselves.

[solidfreshdope]

Ok so if you want to play the semantics game then all submissions are registrations until rejected. They said it themselves.

Technically what they say would mean that submissions are not considered registered until they are approved / send letter.


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[DoctorLove]

I received an incomplete notice for my anderson am15. the picture i submitted clearly shows "am15" on the receiver, yet the message i received reads something like "based on your photos, the model is "mp-15". please correct your application." Should i just change it to the incorrect model?