Arrested but never convicted

[matix101]

The ex leo dude kinda worries me he stated he was an "expert" witness in court cases for 3 years.
During that time he was imposing his opinion as fact onto hundreds possibly thousands of jurors possibly persuading convictions onto "possibly" innocent people for petty things such as vicoden possession!
Part of the reason why our justice system is completely skewed, you have gung ho narcotics officers testifying as a drug or dependence "expert" with absolutely zero medical, dependency, or phsycoligical background whatsoever with a completely one sided and cemented in opinion he has come to over his years of profiling actual criminals and innocents assumed as such alike!
Quite frightening in all honesty!


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[Cokebottle]

That is why you have defense attorneys and they have their own expert witnesses, as well as the ability to cross examine.

[matix101]

That is why you have defense attorneys and they have their own expert witnesses, as well as the ability to cross examine.

True true just the way he put it down like that.
Like he was absolutely qualified to just profile, label, arrest and convict anyone caught with a loose pain pill in their pocket in the same fashion he would an international heroine smuggler!

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[stilly]

I was not aware of the eligibility check when I purchased or I would've done that first.

Well now you know.

Honestly though now that we are all enlightened, you should just say thank you and walk away.

Just let the thread die...

Good luck on your gun purchase OP. May you come back to purchase many more...

Ditto.

Particularly when items like this are sold at every drug store, and no doubt have saved many people from overdosing or underdosing.

What am I supposed to do with my blood pressure meds, where the prescription says HALF of a pill.
Am I supposed to put the remaining half back into the original bottle (where it will fall to the bottom and eventually be ground to dust)?

So it's a misdemeanor to leave that half pill in the catch area of the cutter?

Wow. Reductio ad absurdum much? LoL. That was bad man. Really BAD. - Like, Aziz Ansari BAD...

[Cokebottle]

True true just the way he put it down like that.
Like he was absolutely qualified to just profile, label, arrest and convict anyone caught with a loose pain pill in their pocket in the same fashion he would an international heroine smuggler!

Smugglers don't get caught by having 30 kilos discovered in their carry-on.



Oh wait... I guess they do

[I Swan]

The ex leo dude kinda worries me he stated he was an "expert" witness in court cases for 3 years.
During that time he was imposing his opinion as fact onto hundreds possibly thousands of jurors possibly persuading convictions onto "possibly" innocent people for petty things such as vicoden possession!
Part of the reason why our justice system is completely skewed, you have gung ho narcotics officers testifying as a drug or dependence "expert" with absolutely zero medical, dependency, or phsycoligical background whatsoever with a completely one sided and cemented in opinion he has come to over his years of profiling actual criminals and innocents assumed as such alike!
Quite frightening in all honesty!


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I thought about that as well but also was wondering about what racial profiling and other questionable acts he may have commited while out on patrol in his career.

[PackersFan26]

The ex leo dude kinda worries me he stated he was an "expert" witness in court cases for 3 years.
During that time he was imposing his opinion as fact onto hundreds possibly thousands of jurors possibly persuading convictions onto "possibly" innocent people for petty things such as vicoden possession!
Part of the reason why our justice system is completely skewed, you have gung ho narcotics officers testifying as a drug or dependence "expert" with absolutely zero medical, dependency, or phsycoligical background whatsoever with a completely one sided and cemented in opinion he has come to over his years of profiling actual criminals and innocents assumed as such alike!
Quite frightening in all honesty!


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The fact that the guy said Vicodin is a "hard" drug, he kinda lost his credibility there. I'm not downplaying the fact that I assume it can be if used in ways inconsistent with the label, but I mean cmon. The average idiot would think "hard drugs" and most likely associate methamphetimine, cocaine, heroin, etc.

But I digress. I think a true narcotics detective good at what he does/did, with all the "thousands" of arrests he made, wouldn't conduct himself in a such an arrogant, vulgar, and unprofessional manner.

[strongpoint]

I thought about that as well but also was wondering about what racial profiling and other questionable acts he may have commited while out on patrol in his career.

So it's not OK for him to make assumptions based on incomplete information about people he doesn't know, but it is OK for you to do so? Just thought I'd ask.

[matix101]

So it's not OK for him to make assumptions based on incomplete information about people he doesn't know, but it is OK for you to do so? Just thought I'd ask.

I believe he said he was "wondering" not assuming...
But neither here nor there just thought I'd clear that up.

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[I Swan]

So it's not OK for him to make assumptions based on incomplete information about people he doesn't know, but it is OK for you to do so? Just thought I'd ask.

As mentioned I was wondering not assuming. You know what they say about assuming! Also LE is and should be held to a higher standard due to the power and trust placed in their hands.

[liberallyloaded]

As mentioned Also LE is and should be held to a higher standard due to the power and trust placed in their hands.

Whoa whoa whoa... LEO are dudes and dudettes, man. All the power to em for choosing that career, and I thank them for doing so, but they're people like you and me. I'd hate for any notion or connotation of a "higher standard" to be interpreted as "higher status" or "capable of holding special privileges" ...

[Chewy65]

The fact that the guy said Vicodin is a "hard" drug, he kinda lost his credibility there. I'm not downplaying the fact that I assume it can be if used in ways inconsistent with the label, but I mean cmon. The average idiot would think "hard drugs" and most likely associate methamphetimine, cocaine, heroin, etc.

But I digress. I think a true narcotics detective good at what he does/did, with all the "thousands" of arrests he made, wouldn't conduct himself in a such an arrogant, vulgar, and unprofessional manner.

I don't know how you define the term "hard drug". I do know that vidocin is very easy to become dependent upon.

[Chewy65]

I thought about that as well but also was wondering about what racial profiling and other questionable acts he may have commited while out on patrol in his career.

WTF does "racial profiling" have to do with this thread and for that matter where did roostersgt say a damn thing about race in it? Questionable acts "he may have committed"? It sounds like you have a problem with profiling cops.

[liberallyloaded]

I don't know how you define the term "hard drug". I do know that vidocin is very easy to become dependent upon.

Uhhhhhh, I would think that a drug would be considered "hard" if it-
a) was mind altering
b) was a highly addictive opiate that could be fatal in terms of dangerous side effects (especially pertaining to breathing)
c) had fatal interactions with alcohol (vicodin is a combo of opiate + acetaminophen)
d) presented clear and present danger to your organs if taken regularly (read:liver)

But uh, if you don't consider that a "hard" drug, all the power to ya...

[Cokebottle]

Uhhhhhh, I would think that a drug would be considered "hard" if it-
a) was mind altering
b) was a highly addictive opiate that could be fatal in terms of dangerous side effects (especially pertaining to breathing)
c) had fatal interactions with alcohol (vicodin is a combo of opiate + acetaminophen)
d) presented clear and present danger to your organs if taken regularly (read:liver)

But uh, if you don't consider that a "hard" drug, all the power to ya...

That was his point.

OP doesn't consider it a hard drug... Chewy was questioning that.

Vicodin certainly is.
I've been prescribed it a number of times after minor procedures including some extremely painful oral surgery.
I've taken a total of maybe 5 tabs my entire life. I think I took 3 after the oral surgery and following day.
Several times I've not taken it at all.

Honestly? No... a 19 year old kid has no business in possession of the stuff unless they've got some major stitches or something is broken.
I tend to side with Rooster on THAT, but the fact remains that without a conviction, OP is not a prohibited person, and it was 5 years ago. I did some stupid stuff when I was that age as well.