NRA Press Conference (8am)

[Skidmark]

A press conference that proscribed any questions from the press? What a farce.

[I500X]

Overall a good response. I think CCW's on schools would be more cost-effective than police, but they were probably trying to appeal to the anti's.

As far as violent video games and movies, parents need to do a better job limiting the violence their kids are exposed to. I see 5 year olds watching stuff like Ironman or Lord of the Rings, which is full of violence. Maybe PG-13 should mean only people 13 or older can see the movie?

[PM720]

For everyone that is dwelling on the video games part of the speech, Obama opened that door days ago when he annnounced the formation of the Biden commision.

Scott

[13withinfinity]

Naturally, after the NRA speech the media is hounding over yet another shooting.

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.rbml?pageType=general&catid=57560489&feed_id=999&videofeed=999

[SilverTauron]

A press conference that proscribed any questions from the press? What a farce.

A Q&A session would be the real farce.

I'll save you the trouble and put the entire outcome of a Q&A session right here for you.

MEDIA STOOGE: "Mr LaPierre, Can you tell us how many babies you've killed today?"

A DIFFERENT MEDIA STOOGE: "Why did you kick out the righteous protester with the poster ? "

THE THIRD MEDIA STOOGE: "why can't you come to a common sense agreement with President Obama to encourage your membership to voluntarily disarm? "

[Trenchfoot]

If civil rights demand equal measure of pesonal responsibility, then the 1st Amendment is in dire need of cultural and perhaps legal reform. Yup, I said it. If we're comfortable with background checks and CCW permits for carrying a firearm, perhaps we need to regulate movies and video games in the same way.

If that suggestion offends you, perhaps you should ask yourself why before typing a response to this.

I don't want to read anything into your comment that wasn't intended. Can you be more specific? Are you talking about banning certain types of media? Having background checks to purchase R rated films and violent video games?

I agree that the media in a way glorifies these psychos, but the media only gives us what we want to see. How many months did Foxnews keep Greta Van Susteren in Aruba to cover the Natalee Holloway disappearance, while ignoring the other young American women who disappear each day? The media knows that if they fail to cover a story like the Newtown massacre throughly and even sensationally, we will change the channel to find a network that will.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us."

[smogcity]

Overall a good response. I think CCW's on schools would be more cost-effective than police, but they were probably trying to appeal to the anti's.

As far as violent video games and movies, parents need to do a better job limiting the violence their kids are exposed to. I see 5 year olds watching stuff like Ironman or Lord of the Rings, which is full of violence. Maybe PG-13 should mean only people 13 or older can see the movie?

Bingo. Card at theaters as you would at a bar. Not only at the ticket counter, but at EACH theater door at the multiplex..It's for the kids you know, think of the children! If parents want to play SAW for the kids at home, it's the same as giving them a cig and beer, bad parenting we can't fix..

Producers making R rated movies know that pre-teens and teens will attend. If, lord forbid, that revenue stream was cut off, they would make appropriate movies that the target demographic would want to see

[elSquid]

I don't agree with the demonization of the media and video games, and I doubt the utility of an armed guard in every school, but that isn't the point.

It was a good statement. Making the school shield program a focus is a good strategy. Redirection of public discourse is the smart way to go.

Hopefully, behind the scenes the NRA is wielding a big stick and playing hardball with the politicians by giving them a history lesson...

"On November 8, we got the living daylights beat out of us, losing eight Senate races and fifty-four House seats, the largest defeat for our party since 1946....The NRA had a great night. They beat both Speaker Tom Foley and Jack Brooks, two of the ablest members of Congress, who had warned me this would happen. Foley was the first Speaker to be defeated in more than a century. Jack Brooks had supported the NRA for years and had led the fight against the assault weapons ban in the House, but as chairman of the Judiciary Committee he had voted for the overall crime bill even after the ban was put into it. The NRA was an unforgiving master: one strike and you're out. The gun lobby claimed to have defeated nineteen of the twenty-four members on its hit list. They did at least that much damage...." (Pages 629-630)

--William J. Clinton, My Life

I'm happy to be an NRA life member, and I think I get good value for the money that I've donated.

-- Michael

[AEC1]

Cracks me up they way this board sways back and forth. I dont keep track of screen names, but it was not all that long ago (week or so) that the NRA was getting bashed all over the place. Now there are threads where we are lining up to perform felatio to the Wayne... I am sure that it is not the same people flip floping on the issue, but from it is strange the way group think takes over on ALL internet discussion boards.

[SilverTauron]

I don't want to read anything into your comment that wasn't intended. Can you be more specific? Are you talking about banning certain types of media? Having background checks to purchase R rated films and violent video games?

I agree that the media in a way glorifies these psychos, but the media only gives us what we want to see. How many months did Foxnews keep Greta Van Susteren in Aruba to cover the Natalee Holloway disappearance, while ignoring the other young American women who disappear each day? The media knows that if they fail to cover a story like the Newtown massacre throughly and even sensationally, we will change the channel to find a network that will.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us."

We're saying the same thing.

The problem however is that we cannot lay all of this at the viewers feet. Media channels are corporations today, so they obviously are playing a game of one-up with each other. Facts of the situation which don't fit the sensationalist creed-like a civilian ending a spree shooting- consequently get left on the cutting room floor, which defeats the entire point of the 1st Amendment as it was established to create a media which held EVERYONE accountable for their actions, including themselves. If that were still the case Obama would be in the middle of an Impeachment hearing on Fast and Furious.

Whats happening now is that our media is editing news stories to generate entertaining news articles, so as to sell more airtime and papers. That's akin to a gun owner illegally converting a rifle to a full auto SBR.Yet the media aren't held to account for their lying and slanted reporting at all, while the ATF would jump on the illegal gun owner like a Mac Truck running over an expansion joint.

[hnoppenberger]

I will just say this: I love me some Grand Theft Auto, but kids under 18 should not be allowed to play that stuff. 13 year olds should not be given the idea in their heads that taking out cops and getting away with it is a mission goal.
The rating systems should be enforced big time. Same goes with movies. Rated R means rated R, no one under 17 allowed. They already check ID's at the movies if you look under 25.

Ah yes, and liberalism should be outlawed.

[pitbull30]

I like what he had to say. When I went to school as a kid there was a active duty cop in the school called a "school resource officer". My grandfather was also one in a city up north. When I talked to someone who now goes to the schools I went to as a kid he said they took the cops out.

I like how he made reference to semi-auto. I was going nuts listening to the media yell about " civilians don't need these semi auto machine guns"

Another good point. The president cutting the school budget. Maybe that's why the cops are no longer in the schools I used to go to.

Sports was another good example. How many of you have been to the staples center and seen the security posture there. Nuff said.

[elSquid]

A press conference that proscribed any questions from the press? What a farce.

What would the point of having the NRA field questions about the 'fiscal cliff' and the impasse between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to tax increases and spending cuts?





-- Michael

[Creeping Incrementalism]

RE: Video games.

I recall reading about a study that the Army did post WWII, it showed that a very large % of combatants had opportunities to shot at enemies - but didn't. The % was surprisingly large.

In response they completely revamped training procedures to break down the internal mental wall that kept soldiers from shooting. As a result the % of combatants who did take the shot (and many more shots) in Viet Nam and subsequent wars increased dramatically.

That study was by S.L.A. Marshall who has since been revealed to be a fraud by his protege, David Hackworth, and Marshall's his own son. The data on the percentage of troops firing their weapons in combat is one of the specific pieces of his research that no one believes anymore.

[iloveyourmom562]

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