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Many seem to be missing NRA's message: Provide security for our kids in school RIGHT NOW. Unlike the politicians who want to b%tch and banter back and forth for months and finally decide that 10 round mags and an AR with no bayo lug is the solution.
As far as the video game stuff, the point was the hipocracy of the industry; make a sh*t ton of dough off the violence but then cry out when it actually happens.Comment
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[CENTER]CALIFORNIA: Love it, leave it /CENTER]
The right to keep and bear arms comes not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.Comment
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I'm watching it now, he's going after video games, with that logic he should be on to rap music next right? Too bad that the logic level really tanked there.
The larger cultural issue there imho is desensitization, which I think is a problem not only for a lot of regular folks, but for the .01%ers as well. However, when I look at the kids who have done mass shootings in the last decade, I don't see their problem as desensitization as much as being 'broken'. 'Broken' meaning drug/mental problems leading to majorly hurting society.
TBH I don't have a problem with guns being on a delay or require background checks. I know some people who may be able to acquire them who would be an incredible danger if they did. They probably won't care to acquire them *illegally*. It seems that the gun support culture is starting to recognize this now.Comment
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Suggested solution was good. Drawing comparisons to how banks and politicians are protected was good.
Violence in entertainment and games should not have been included. That's just doing what the gun grabbers do; focusing on the few people who snap, and alienating and punishing everyone else who doesn't snap. Most video gamers and fans of violent entertainment won’t get the hypocrisy angle, they’ll just see it as an attack.
NRA could improve on selection of audience-facing people for delivering PR like this. I respect the speaker, and I understand he is in the appropriate position to deliver this level of statement. However, the delivery may have come across as stiff and preachy to the average fence sitter.
We are the choir, we know who's right and the facts are on our side. The challenge is to attract and pull the fence sitters over. The delivery of the message significantly matters in that objective.
Just my opinions, no more or less weight than anyone else's.Last edited by amd64; 12-21-2012, 12:38 PM.Comment
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Bad guy/good guy comment was good. Then he blows it by saying we need LEO's at every school. Kinda outta touch with reality I think....Comment
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I was disappointed as well.
A lot of preaching to the choir, and not much in the way of damage control.
This was a wasted opportunity to drive public the message that motivated, deranged madmen/madwomen are the problem here, not scary-looking guns. This was the chance to drive home the points that most of the "high scores" on the Let's Kill Everybody game were achieved without firing a single shot.
What about the fact that AWB did nothing to prevent Columbine (where IEDs that failed to go off were intended to cause most of the deaths and shooters' guns were merely Plan B). Or the fact that the absolute worst school massacre in US history was accomplished using lots of explosives and only a single shot? That a sufficiently smart (Sandy Hook PoS was no social butterfly, but if guns weren't an option, that's one guy we could count on to come up with a creative alternative that probably would've killed just as many people or more), and motivated mass murderers can and will succeed regardless of how many feel-good anti-gun laws the congress passes?That ain't a stolen gun under my car seat - it's undocumented sports equipment!
"So do I. In fifteen goddamn towns this has happened to me. This is the last. I won't be ******* shoved anymore." -John Rambo.
"When it's used more and more, extortion can seem to a terrified and traumatized populace as a normal tax system" -cnn.com, http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/world/...ney/index.htmlComment
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The points about violent entertainment are valid, most people will dismiss those points although I would never deny they have a negative effect on any human's subconcious regardless of people telling me they've had no ill effect on them.
Second, whether they ignore it or not, corporate media will never think that their over-reporting of tragic events contributes to more violence. They don't wish to understand cause and effect and will always say the cause lies elsewhere. Then when it does repeat they will always just report it again never looking at their own responsibility.
The press conference really had common sense unlike most conducted by politicians and others. The demonstrators looked completely out of context and appeared quite ridiculous with signs saying NRA had "blood on it's hands".
When I go to Bank of America there are armed guards in front of the door. I think to myself and have even made the remark to the guard something to the effect of "So, they've got you protecting the 1%, eh?"
If people cannot see guns in society, on police, in military, at banks, airports, sports stadiums, walking behind Tiger Woods at a PGA tourney and not see that real security protects lives other than their own children then let them continue blaming the NRA and guns for the news they see on their television that outrages them. Are they that blind?
Yes, I'm afraid so.
You generally run out of time before you run out of ammo.
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Completely disappointing and totally out of touch with the current reality. They could have really gotten some folks behind them but instead alienated them. EMBARRSSING FAILURE.Comment
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Christ man they spent 30 minutes talking about increasing or placing a firearms presence in schools. I'd wager that most people in America, pro 2A or not, does not want to see this happen, even though "I" am all for it. Most anti's who will actually take the time to hear this speech will only hear: "NRA wants more guns, guns, GUNS!"
They needed to point the blame towards criminals and the mentally unstable and other people who choose to illegally obtain guns, not Mortal Kombat and Splatter house (?!); way to sound totally out of step with the times, guys.
My advice to the NRA and while we're at it, the Republican party: get some 30-40 something year old people that majored in some speech and debate/public speaking during their education and get them to speak for them, because the best these groups are doing is boring their supporters while further alienating and angering everyone else. The NRA had the chance, the rare opportunity to CHALLENGE and DESTROY the misconceptions and misplaced fears about guns and gun ownership and they failed miserably!
Speech=sleep inducing FAIL...Last edited by myk; 12-21-2012, 1:03 PM.
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Going up there and reading a prepared statement is a major disappointment. It takes him away from his chance to offer a perception that NRA cares and will offer a sincere solution to the problem. Reading a script looks contrived and his bobbing head is a distraction.Comment
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