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  • GillaFunk
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 2104

    Originally posted by XD40SUBBIE
    Chairman Tom Ammiano sounds a lot like Sol Rosenburg from the Jerky Boy skits...
    ^ This

    "I got warts, all over my azz and genitalia, and I want them removed. Maybe you get a hot poker and burn them off"
    Im just a doode, playin' a doode, disguised as another doode


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    • XD40SUBBIE
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 621

      Originally posted by GillaFunk
      ^ This

      "I got warts, all over my azz and genitalia, and I want them removed. Maybe you get a hot poker and burn them off"
      Right, that's the one!

      Okay, Adam Keigwan is lying through his teeth, along with Yee and the Brady Bunch, Sol Rosenburg, I mean Tom Ammiano...They claim this is only for the Magnet Button...then Adam Tweeted at CGF to read the bill/law.

      So giving the prima donna the benefit of the doubt, I did just that again. Can someone who is smarter than I am please tell me where it says, only the magnet button? Please? Remember, that the KCBS report was attacking the bullet button. This is the report that supposedly inspired Yee into bring up this bill. "THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

      SECTION 1. Section 30527 is added to the Penal Code, to read:
      30527. (a) As used in this chapter a "conversion kit" means
      either of the following:
      (1) Any combination of parts that, when affixed to a firearm with
      a fixed magazine, are designed and intended to convert that firearm
      into an assault weapon as defined by one of the following:

      (A) Paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515.

      (B) Paragraph (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515.

      (C) Paragraph (7) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515.
      (2) Any
      any part that, when affixed to a firearm with a fixed
      magazine, is designed solely and exclusively to convert that firearm
      into an assault weapon as defined by one of the following:
      (A)
      (1) Paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515.

      (B)
      (2) Paragraph (4) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515.

      (C)
      (3) Paragraph (7) of subdivision (a) of Section 30515.
      (b) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2013.
      SEC. 2. Section 30618 is added to the Penal Code, to read:
      30618. (a) No person shall import into this state, make, sell,
      loan, transfer , or possess a conversion kit.
      (b) For purposes of this article, if more than one conversion kit
      is involved in any violation of this article, there shall be a
      distinct and separate offense for each violation.
      (c) The provisions of this section are cumulative and shall not be
      construed as restricting the application of any other law. However,
      an act or omission punishable in different ways by different
      provisions of law shall not be punished under more than one
      provision.
      (d) Subdivision (a) shall not apply to or affect any of the
      following:
      (1) The sale to, transfer to, or loan to, importation of, or
      possession of a conversion kit by the Department of Justice, police
      department, sheriffs' offices, marshals' offices, the Department of
      Corrections and Rehabilitation, the Department of the California
      Highway Patrol, district attorneys' offices, the Department of Fish
      and Game, the Department of Parks and Recreation, or the military or
      naval forces of this state or of the United States, or any federal
      law enforcement agency for use in the discharge of their official
      duties.
      (2) The transfer by or loan by the entities listed in paragraph
      (1) of a conversion kit to sworn peace officer members of those
      agencies for law enforcement purposes.
      (3) The possession of conversion kits by sworn peace officer
      members of those agencies specified in paragraph (1) for law
      enforcement purposes.
      (4) The manufacture of, possession of, or importation of a
      conversion kit by any person who is issued a permit pursuant to
      Section 31005.
      (5) The sale by, loan of, or transfer of a conversion kit by a
      person who is issued a permit pursuant to Section 31005 to any of the
      following:
      (A) Exempt entities listed in paragraph (1).
      (B) Entities and persons who have been issued permits pursuant to
      Section 31005.
      (C) Federal military and law enforcement agencies.
      (D) Law enforcement and military agencies of other states.
      (E) Foreign governments and agencies approved by the United States
      State Department.
      (6) A person who is the executor or administrator of an estate
      that includes a conversion kit that is possessed in accordance with,
      and disposed of as authorized by, the probate court, if the
      disposition is otherwise permitted by this section.
      (7) The possession of and sale or transfer of a conversion kit by
      a person incident to relinquishing the conversion kit pursuant to
      Section 31100.
      (8) The transfer by a person authorized to possess a conversion
      kit by this section to any licensed gun dealer for the purposes of
      servicing or repair from any person who is legally entitled to
      possess it pursuant to this section.
      (9) The possession of a conversion kit by any licensed gun dealer
      who received the conversion kit pursuant to paragraph (8).
      (10) The transfer of possession of a conversion kit received by
      any licensed gun dealer pursuant to paragraph (9) to a gunsmith for
      purposes of accomplishing service or repair of that conversion kit. A
      transfer is permissible only to the following persons:
      (A) A gunsmith who is in the dealer's employ.
      (B) A gunsmith with whom the dealer has contracted for gunsmithing
      services.
      (11) The transfer of possession of any conversion kit by any
      person referred to in paragraph (10) to either the licensed gun
      dealer from whom it was received or to a person otherwise referred to
      in paragraph (10).
      (12) The return of any conversion kit initially received by any
      licensed gun dealer pursuant to this section to the person from whom
      he or she received it if that recipient is legally entitled to
      possess that conversion kit pursuant to this section.
      (13) The possession of a conversion kit by the registered owner of
      an assault weapon if the conversion kit is possessed at that person'
      s residence, place of business, or other property owned by that
      person.
      (e) A violation of this section is punishable as follows:
      (1) Where the person imports into this state, makes, sells, loans,
      or transfers a conversion kit, that person shall be punished by a
      fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), imprisonment in a county jail
      for a period not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and
      imprisonment.
      (2) In all cases not specified in paragraph (1), as a misdemeanor.

      (f) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2013.
      SEC. 3. Section 30800 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
      30800. (a) (1) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with
      Section 30600), possession of any assault weapon or of any .50 BMG
      rifle in violation of this chapter is a public nuisance, solely for
      purposes of this section and subdivision (c) of Section 18005.
      (2) The Attorney General, any district attorney, or any city
      attorney, may, in lieu of criminal prosecution, bring a civil action
      or reach a civil compromise in any superior court to enjoin the
      possession of the assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle that is a public
      nuisance.
      (b) Upon motion of the Attorney General, district attorney, or
      city attorney, a superior court may impose a civil fine not to exceed
      three hundred dollars ($300) for the first assault weapon or .50 BMG
      rifle deemed a public nuisance pursuant to subdivision (a) and up to
      one hundred dollars ($100) for each additional assault weapon or .50
      BMG rifle deemed a public nuisance pursuant to subdivision (a).
      (c) Any assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle deemed a public nuisance
      under subdivision (a) shall be destroyed in a manner so that it may
      no longer be used, except upon a finding by a court, or a declaration
      from the Department of Justice, district attorney, or city attorney
      stating that the preservation of the assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle
      is in the interest of justice.
      (d) Upon conviction of any misdemeanor or felony involving the
      illegal possession or use of an assault weapon, the assault weapon
      shall be deemed a public nuisance and disposed of pursuant to
      subdivision (c) of Section 18005.
      (e) This section shall become inoperative on July 1, 2013, and, as
      of January 1, 2014, is repealed, unless a later enacted statute,
      that becomes operative on or before January 1, 2014, deletes or
      extends the dates on which it becomes inoperative and is repealed.
      SEC. 4. Section 30800 is added to the Penal Code, to read:
      30800. (a) (1) Except as provided in Article 2 (commencing with
      Section 30600), possession of any assault weapon, any .50 BMG rifle,
      or any conversion kit in violation of this chapter is a public
      nuisance, solely for purposes of this section and subdivision (c) of
      Section 18005.
      (2) The Attorney General, any district attorney, or any city
      attorney may, in lieu of criminal prosecution, bring a civil action
      or reach a civil compromise in any superior court to enjoin the
      possession of the assault weapon, .50 BMG rifle, or conversion kit
      that is a public nuisance.
      (b) (1) Upon motion of the Attorney General, district attorney, or
      city attorney, a superior court may impose a civil fine not to
      exceed three hundred dollars ($300) for the first assault weapon or .
      50 BMG rifle deemed a public nuisance pursuant to subdivision (a) and
      up to one hundred dollars ($100) for each additional assault weapon
      or .50 BMG rifle deemed a public nuisance pursuant to subdivision
      (a).
      (2) Upon motion of the Attorney General, district attorney, or
      city attorney, a superior court may impose a civil fine not to exceed
      one hundred dollars ($100) for the first conversion kit deemed to be
      a public nuisance pursuant to subdivision (a) and up to fifty
      dollars ($50) for each additional conversion kit deemed to be a
      public nuisance pursuant to subdivision (a).
      (c) Any assault weapon, .50 BMG rifle, or conversion kit deemed a
      public nuisance under subdivision (a) shall be destroyed in a manner
      so that it may no longer be used, except upon a finding by a court,
      or a declaration from the Department of Justice, district attorney,
      or city attorney stating that the preservation of the assault weapon,
      .50 BMG rifle, or conversion kit is in the interest of justice.
      (d) Upon conviction of any misdemeanor or felony involving the
      illegal possession or use of an assault weapon, the assault weapon
      shall be deemed a public nuisance and disposed of pursuant to
      subdivision (c) of Section 18005.
      (e) Upon conviction of any misdemeanor involving the illegal
      possession or use of a conversion kit, the conversion kit shall be
      deemed a public nuisance and disposed of pursuant to subdivision (c)
      of Section 18005.
      (f) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2013.
      SEC. 5. Section 31100 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
      31100. Any individual may arrange in advance to relinquish an
      assault weapon, a .50 BMG rifle, or a conversion kit to a police or
      sheriff's department. The assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle shall be
      transported in accordance with Sections 16850 and 25610.
      SEC. 6. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to
      Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because
      the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school
      district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or
      infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty
      for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the
      Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the
      meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California
      Constitution. "
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      • Gray Peterson
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2005
        • 5817

        Could people not post homophobic crap this thread, or UN treaty crap on this thread?

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        • stilly
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2009
          • 10673

          Originally posted by XD40SUBBIE
          We need to get Adam to admit that with Yee on a letter. IF this is only for magnets, then done - I think CGF is pretty soild on what they think about those magnets anyway. If they can write coherently, perhaps they need to hire someone that can, but if that's what SB249 is, specifically, then it may not be such a bad idea...however, my Liberal-Up-To-No-Good-BS-Meter is going off the chart, along with my blood pressure.

          Here's a few followup questions for Adam or anyone that has the answer. How many of these darn magnets have been sold in CA? Is it so numerous that we need another law on top of what we already have to enforce it? Does he know the difference between the Magnets and the Bullet Button?
          Sounds like another shoulder thing that goes up...
          7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

          Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



          And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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          • bplvr
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jun 2008
            • 3946

            Originally posted by Gray Peterson
            Could people not post homophobic crap this thread, or UN treaty crap on this thread?
            ^^^^ THIS ! STAY on TOPIC !! ...lest some mod start swinging a hammer.

            My apologies to Gray for anything said by some of our members showing some of their 'opinions'.
            Last edited by bplvr; 07-05-2012, 6:49 PM. Reason: sp
            "America will never be destroyed from the outside.
            If we falter and lose our freedoms,it will be because we destroyed ourselves"

            -Abraham Lincoln,a summation of a speech given at the Lyceum in 1838
            =======================================
            "Revolution against tyranny is the most sacred of duties"
            - Benjamin Franklin -1775
            =======================================

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            • Noah3683
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2256

              Originally posted by Gray Peterson
              Could people not post homophobic crap this thread, or UN treaty crap on this thread?
              I agree. Let's stay on task folks....
              Originally posted by Neil McCauley
              Are you actually suppost to "taste" wood?
              Originally posted by Neil McCauley
              Just wish I knew what wood in your meat is suppost to taste like.

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              • Noah3683
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 2256

                Originally posted by bplvr
                ^^^^ THIS ! STAY on TOPIC !! ...lest some mod start swinging a hammer.

                My apologies to Gray for anything said by some of our members showing some of their 'opinions'.
                Guess my page refresh didn't work lol...
                Originally posted by Neil McCauley
                Are you actually suppost to "taste" wood?
                Originally posted by Neil McCauley
                Just wish I knew what wood in your meat is suppost to taste like.

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                • KMosley
                  Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 269

                  Signed

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                  • AlexDD
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 906

                    If you live in the Half Moon Bay Area? Hill's District

                    Thought I would pass on this link and won't be in the area.

                    If you want to ask Jerry Hill why he voted the way he did at the Public Safety Committee you can join him for coffee. Or just involve yourself on another issue so when you call on a 2a issue they don't automatically discount you and/or You have a common frame of reference with who you are speaking.

                    Being courteous, polite and non offensive will get you better answers or he may reveal more.

                    Don't make the 2A side look bad. Yee has done enough to try "villainize" 2A supporters.



                    From the link:

                    "Java with Jerry
                    *
                    7:30 to 9 a.m., Thursday, July 19, 2012
                    Half Moon Bay Coffee Company
                    20 Stone Pine Road, #A
                    Half Moon Bay

                    Join Assemblymember Jerry Hill for a cup of coffee and conversation. Bring your ideas, questions, and concerns about legislative issues affecting the community."

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                    • Californio
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 4169

                      I agree, it serves no purpose.


                      Originally posted by Gray Peterson
                      Could people not post homophobic crap this thread, or UN treaty crap on this thread?
                      "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                      • wildhawker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14150

                        Jerry Hill is not on the Public Safety Committee.

                        -Brandon

                        Originally posted by AlexDD
                        Thought I would pass on this link and won't be in the area.

                        If you want to ask Jerry Hill why he voted the way he did at the Public Safety Committee you can join him for coffee. Or just involve yourself on another issue so when you call on a 2a issue they don't automatically discount you and/or You have a common frame of reference with who you are speaking.

                        Being courteous, polite and non offensive will get you better answers or he may reveal more.

                        Don't make the 2A side look bad. Yee has done enough to try "villainize" 2A supporters.



                        From the link:

                        "Java with Jerry
                        *
                        7:30 to 9 a.m., Thursday, July 19, 2012
                        Half Moon Bay Coffee Company
                        20 Stone Pine Road, #A
                        Half Moon Bay

                        Join Assemblymember Jerry Hill for a cup of coffee and conversation. Bring your ideas, questions, and concerns about legislative issues affecting the community."
                        Brandon Combs

                        I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

                        My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                        • bplvr
                          Senior Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3946

                          AND ....now we need to focus on the Appropriations Committee....
                          "America will never be destroyed from the outside.
                          If we falter and lose our freedoms,it will be because we destroyed ourselves"

                          -Abraham Lincoln,a summation of a speech given at the Lyceum in 1838
                          =======================================
                          "Revolution against tyranny is the most sacred of duties"
                          - Benjamin Franklin -1775
                          =======================================

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                          • wildhawker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14150

                            Originally posted by bplvr
                            AND ....now we need to focus on the Appropriations Committee....
                            ^ This.

                            -Brandon
                            Brandon Combs

                            I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

                            My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                            • jimezdoesit
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 69

                              Originally posted by Gray Peterson
                              Could people not post homophobic crap this thread, or UN treaty crap on this thread?
                              Yep.. No more UN Treaty stuff. I will stay on target with phone calls and letters.

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                              • bplvr
                                Senior Member
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 3946

                                Originally posted by wildhawker
                                ^ This.

                                -Brandon
                                The sooner their phone #'s are posted ,the sooner we can call all of them.

                                Time to get busy gunnies. Wanna give up your guns ? .....then just go back to sleep. ................OR ......START CALLING/faxing/e-mailing TOMORROW !!
                                .
                                .
                                .
                                ."I'm MAD as HELL and I'm not gonna take this pelosi anymore !!! "


                                We have been on the upside of this fight for 8 years now,and this is not the time to snooze.We MUST always be on the forefront .

                                ...
                                Last edited by bplvr; 07-05-2012, 10:09 PM.
                                "America will never be destroyed from the outside.
                                If we falter and lose our freedoms,it will be because we destroyed ourselves"

                                -Abraham Lincoln,a summation of a speech given at the Lyceum in 1838
                                =======================================
                                "Revolution against tyranny is the most sacred of duties"
                                - Benjamin Franklin -1775
                                =======================================

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