The STOP SB 249 (Yee) Campaign: Moves fwd to Appropriations Cmte - Back to Work!!

[totalinfidel]

I'm sorry but there is no such thing as a "California Approved AR15 Rifle".

I own an AR15 style rifle which is not banned by name/model and due to the presence of a bullet button is also not a semi automatic center fire rifle capable of accepting a detachable magazine, thus my rifle is not illegal in California.

Thanks for your clarification, I think. Being kind of new to this whole thing I am going to ask a dumb question so please forgive me. The AR15 rifles that are currently being sold in CA by licensed dealers with the bullet button features are not approved for CA? I'm a bit confused?

[Yemff]

uhhh the vote was at like 930 this morning, but still theres many more votes till this thing becomes a law

[OlderThanDirt]

After listening to the entire committee hearing, I can now understand why California is on the verge of financial collapse. First, the committee was completely unprofessional; starting late and making jokes about a bromance and someone's MENSA traits (or lack thereof). Second, most of the committee members don't seem to really care what is in the bill, only that it is anti-gun so it's good enough to pass. Third, it was painfully obvious that Yee and his little Brady munchkin are clearly going after the bullet button and virtually all semiautomatic rifles. The Brady munchkin was at least honest about what she wants, while Yee is either (1) too stupid to understand the issue or (2) a flat out liar. The intent seems to pass a bill that is so vague that the CA DOJ can interpret it any way they want and pass rules banning whole classes of firearms. While it made for good theater for one committee member to express the need for the DOJ to be involved, since they are the "experts", I think they are already involved behind the scenes and will not emerge from behind the curtain until the bill has been passed and signed.

[jimezdoesit]

Thanks for your clarification, I think. Being kind of new to this whole thing I am going to ask a dumb question so please forgive me. The AR15 rifles that are currently being sold in CA by licensed dealers with the bullet button features are not approved for CA? I'm a bit confused?

From one junior member to the next. I think the word to use is "compliant" and not "approved".

[totalinfidel]

Thanks for your clarification, I think. Being kind of new to this whole thing I am going to ask a dumb question so please forgive me. The AR15 rifles that are currently being sold in CA by licensed dealers with the bullet button features are not approved for CA? I'm a bit confused?

Woops, Never mind Rock6.3. I get it now. My apologies for not reading your entire post.

Foot is has now been removed from my mouth.

[totalinfidel]

From one junior member to the next. I think the word to use is "compliant" and not "approved".

Thanks Jimezdoesit. I will use the correct terminology in the future. I now understand that the flow.

[njineermike]

Is there a potential cost angle we should be focusing on in our communications to the Appropriations Committee?

Yes. The millions of mag magnets they will be forced to repurchase at state expense. And by the required date, there will likely BE millions.

[Jeepers]

so whats the time frame on this ?

how fast could they push it into law ?

[monibrew]

http://sd08.senate.ca.gov/news/2012-07-03-committee-approves-bill-close-assault-weapon-loophole

(funny because Holder gets a slap on the wrist for doing just that)

[XD40SUBBIE]

After listening to the entire committee hearing, I can now understand why California is on the verge of financial collapse. First, the committee was completely unprofessional; starting late and making jokes about a bromance and someone's MENSA traits (or lack thereof). Second, most of the committee members don't seem to really care what is in the bill, only that it is anti-gun so it's good enough to pass. Third, it was painfully obvious that Yee and his little Brady munchkin are clearly going after the bullet button and virtually all semiautomatic rifles. The Brady munchkin was at least honest about what she wants, while Yee is either (1) too stupid to understand the issue or (2) a flat out liar. The intent seems to pass a bill that is so vague that the CA DOJ can interpret it any way they want and pass rules banning whole classes of firearms. While it made for good theater for one committee member to express the need for the DOJ to be involved, since they are the "experts", I think they are already involved behind the scenes and will not emerge from behind the curtain until the bill has been passed and signed.

Amen! Almost all of the members of the assembly. and the state senate are basically baffoons that have only their own self-interest in mind. How exactly, does a half-cocked, incomplete bill on a subject that the author himself claim he has hardly any knowledge about get passed by the committee?

so whats the time frame on this ?

how fast could they push it into law ?

They aim to have a ban by 7/2013, so my guess is that this will get some motion soon after the baffoons that supposedly represent us reconvene.

[XD40SUBBIE]

Who loathes Mag Magnets here? I am totally against illegal uses for them but I'm not getting caught into irrational fear and loathing of an object like our opposition.

And yes, unfortunately that is their goal!!!

I guess you didn't see the thread where CG folks were upset with Mr. Patent Pending for peddling his crap at the Cow Palace gun show?

[lamduh]

this is just retarded......


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[FairfaxCA]

Here is the latest amendment http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/bill...0110SB24994AMD

[offdutyalot]

This is ridiculous!!!!!!! But, I've come to the realization that CA will never recover from the liberals majority.

So, BB rifles/carbines MAY be outlawed........OK, BS, but OK......

How, by using just a little bit of rational thinking by Yee, does this prevent criminals from possessing "AWs" (semi or full auto) or law abiding citizens from going featureless and running legally aquired standard or high cap mags as fast as they can pull the darn trigger???

It doesn't!!!

If this goes thru, we need to press manufacturers to develop a "fixed mag" system for our ARs, AKs, etc. It can be done.

I've just completely had enough of CA. I've lived here my entire life and used to be proud of it. Now, I'm counting down to when my daughters go off to college and if this state doesn't radically improve, I'm gone........

So, if SB 249 passes into law, rest assured, featureless semi-auto centerfire will be next. Then they will chip away at every weapon (system) until LEOs have to use whistles and "head-to-toe" body armor because only the criminals will be armed..........

THANK YOU TO ALL WHO FIGHT FOR OUR GUN RIGHTS IN CA AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU WHO VOICED YOU OPINIONS WITH EMAILS, LETTER, PHONE CALLS, ETC. KEEP IT UP AND KEEP THE PRESSURE ON.......

-Mike

[FairfaxCA]

Didn't see an answer yet - path for bill:
* Goes to Assembly Appropriations - if passes,
* * Goes to Assembly floor - if passes
* * * Goes back to Senate floor for vote on concurring with amendments made in Assembly - if passes
* * * * Goes to Governor, who may sign, veto, or allow to become law without signature

"Goes to Governor" Is Gov Brown still pro gun like he was back in the day?