The STOP SB 249 (Yee) Campaign: Moves fwd to Appropriations Cmte - Back to Work!!

[IPSICK]

The legislation as currently written is sufficiently vague as to prevent anyone from being able to give you a clean answer. That in itself is part of the problem.

^^^This.

And I don't think there should be any Hagman apologists, symbolic support by being present and vocal even in defeat goes a long way in my book.

[gixxnrocket]

I must admit I am no legal scholar or claim to entirely understand California's Legislative procedures. However, At what point if any can the oposition in these hearings force Yee to clearly define "conversion Kit". Or since he verbaly clarified the intent as anti-Magmagnet, can the AB still be ammended to specify only the use of a Mag Magnet as the offence?

I hate to think that we the people must first loose our constitutional rights by the hand of these officials only then spend our time and money to appeal to the fed for an overuling. (assuming at that point the DOJ and SCOTUS allow us to have our rights back) all the while they use our tax dollars in defense of the State.

[NYsteveZ]

Why is this in the sales section?

[Foresight88]

Signed.

[IPSICK]

He might have had more important things to do since the end result would have been the same. Give the guy a chance before you burn him at the stake.

Honestly, I am open-minded in giving him a chance but a law that violates the 5th and 2nd Amendments seems kind of important, right?

[Thordo]

http://legiscan.com/gaits/rollcall/99796

This post is misleading. This is a compilation of all votes so far not this committee vote specifically.

Thordo

[Greg90731]

signed and emailed too...

[2screws]

DONE!!!

[XD40SUBBIE]

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/7tjbSH9LeR/

Thank you. Wow, hearing Yee has now assured me that he is indeed an idiot. Yamada is my Assembly, Rep - she needs to go...

[IPSICK]

I must admit I am no legal scholar or claim to entirely understand California's Legislative procedures. However, At what point if any can the oposition in these hearings force Yee to clearly define "conversion Kit". Or since he verbaly clarified the intent as anti-Magmagnet, can the AB still be ammended to specify only the use of a Mag Magnet as the offence?

I hate to think that we the people must first loose our constitutional rights by the hand of these officials only then spend our time and money to appeal to the fed for an overuling. (assuming at that point the DOJ and SCOTUS allow us to have our rights back) all the while they use our tax dollars in defense of the State.

What he says and what his actual goal is are two very different things. He says mag magnet but the intent is clearly bullet button even though his bill is not very clear about it. Hopefully we can just corner them in to Mag Magnet.

[goober]

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

So, whats next ?? When does the Approp Committe Vote ? if that pasess...then what ?

??? Same question

We don't yet know when the Appropriations Committee will hear this bill but it will likely be soon, as August 17th is the deadline for it to make it through the committee.

Watch this thread for more info. I'm sure STOPSB249.ORG will make it very easy for everyone to express to Appropriations their opposition to this bill.
Yes, arguments in opposition should focus on the fiscal impact of the bill, which isn't to say that you shouldn't mention the fact that it attempts to fix a non-existent problem (using a Mag-Magnet on a centerfire rifle with features is already illegal in CA) and such.

[IPSICK]

Thank you. Wow, hearing Yee has now assured me that he is indeed an idiot. Yamada is my Assembly, Rep - she needs to go...

Before this goes any further, please thank the guy below:

okey dokey here's my recording of the discussion (not including the second vote)
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/7tjbSH9LeR/

[AAShooter]

I must admit I am no legal scholar or claim to entirely understand California's Legislative procedures. However, At what point if any can the oposition in these hearings force Yee to clearly define "conversion Kit". Or since he verbaly clarified the intent as anti-Magmagnet, can the AB still be ammended to specify only the use of a Mag Magnet as the offence?

I hate to think that we the people must first loose our constitutional rights by the hand of these officials only then spend our time and money to appeal to the fed for an overuling. (assuming at that point the DOJ and SCOTUS allow us to have our rights back) all the while they use our tax dollars in defense of the State.

It is very hard to describe things like the Mag Magnet in generic terms. They want to avoid banning the Mag Magnet only to have it re-introduced as the Button Magnet instead.

[TheExiled]

All these people just now getting on this? Thanks for the support

[wendys]

What he says and what his actual goal is are two very different things. He says mag magnet but the intent is clearly bullet button even though his bill is not very clear about it. Hopefully we can just corner them in to Mag Magnet.

I am sure Yee intends for it to be as vague as possible. This way it could be interpreted as they intend.

And if it was amended to specifically address only Mag Magnets wouldn't that require that it falls back to stage one and must be passed again in each committee?