Gov Brown's Newsroom - Check for Vetoes

[CpuFixrMan]

Nope. You'll see it used against them in less than

My only strong disappointment is long gun registration. Luckily the DC Circuit just held 3-0 that it's probably unconstitutional.

-Gene

Where's the "Like" button? LOL

Thanks Gene, looking forward to this one. I think another $100 is going in this coming Friday (payday).

[repubconserv]

Flood the system with flats! Why yes officer, I do own 47 AK47's. Why you say? Because its got a nice ring to it.

why would you reg. guns that you don't have to?

[CalBear]

What's the DROS FUND bill all about? I read the synopsis and don't quite understand it.

Basically the DROS fees are supposed to cover only the cost of gun sales and doing the background checks and maintaining the system. It's clear now that the fees are too high, because they have a surplus, and this bill will let them raid it for other departmental uses. It's basically becoming less of a cost-covering fee and more of a tax.

[bwiese]

Not so much anymore.

Of the bills that fell the way they did, this was better than other combinations.

The signing of SB610 was VERY important for CCW.

I'm confident Meg Whitman WOULD have signed the bills Brown did AND would also have signed the ammo bill (427) and would not have signed the helpful 610.

I can't believe that if we didn't have UOC drama and all UOCers were fully on the team, and knew when to STFU at the right time,
that we would not have had this problem. Threats to carry rifles were very unhelpful They are STILL unhelpful for other
Important Fixups that We Need to Work with LE On.

[CalBear]

Could have been worse, could have been better. Really disappointed about 809. If the Canadian experience is any guide, it's a huge waste of money.

Ya it makes no sense. Just because we have a system for HGs doesn't mean we should use one for LGs. They're very different animals, and DROS has been a pathetic waste, anyway.

[calAWBsux]

That freaking sucks.

[santacruzstefan]

LUCC still legal though, right?

[Lone_Gunman]

I'm wondering if we will see a spike in the price of stripped lowers now...

[safewaysecurity]

I don't wanna say I told you so but...

[Anchors]

Nope. You'll see it used against them in less than

My only strong disappointment is long gun registration. Luckily the DC Circuit just held 3-0 that it's probably unconstitutional.

-Gene

Nice! The DROS raid is bad too.. may give them incentive to raise fees eventually. No?

I see this as an overall win.

1. Ammo bill was vetod.
2. I don't see a con of the long gun registration, its going to be the same thing as handguns are currently.
3. By banning UOC we get LTC easier.

The only one I am unsure about is the DROS raid which I dont know why its bad.

Look at it this way.
Every time a gun transaction happens in California, $25 is charged for the state.
They can use the FBI system to free like every other state, but they would rather charge you $25 (even though it costs them less than that for their own system anyway). They could still do their 10 day wait and register guns without their $25 fee, but they do it.

Now all that money is sitting there. Now they're going to use it on things besides supporting the DROS system. It may give them a reason to increase the fee int he future? That is the only thing I fear. $25 is already too damn much. I bought three $100 guns last month and paid $100 for DROS/PPT. That is too much!

[HK4113]

Basically the DROS fees are supposed to cover only the cost of gun sales and doing the background checks and maintaining the system. It's clear now that the fees are too high, because they have a surplus, and this bill will let them raid it for other departmental uses. It's basically becoming less of a cost-covering fee and more of a tax.

This is good. They just admitted that it is no longer a cost covering fee and we can sue to drop the DROS fee.

[wheels]

Noticed that SB610 passed no LTC requirements for legislators

[hoffmang]

LUCC still legal though, right?

The status of LUCC has not changed. LUCC all you'd like as long as you're not on the grounds of a school with ammo.

-Gene

[Lone_Gunman]

Well, I gotta go to bed now.

[Connor P Price]

why would you reg. guns that you don't have to?

Lots of reasons.

Its the cheapest way to flood the system with registered long guns.
Its funny.
Most importantly, and as Bill explained in another thread discussing this matter, familiarity breeds contempt. Once officers spend enough time seeing damn near everyone's got a longgun registered to them it starts to make the system seem as dumb as it is.